vincer77

Nor would I, but 30 years from now, maybe. Sort of like Ripple vs a 1945 Chateau Mouton-Rothschild
Must be a daddy issue there.Great examples Darin! I loved seeing those cars too.

ABCar

The patina thing makes me wonder about my own connections to the cars I own or have owned. My 02 Pathfinder has patina...but I am not attatched to it. If my 993 had the "patina" of daily use I think I would not get all crazy about it's perfection. But the detaling, upgrading, maintaining (generally OCD behavior!!!) that I do on my 993 makes me look at it as a product of my own work.

I have had cars I got all caught up in but then not so much. My perceptions and connections lessened.
Hmmmm, maybe I should detail my wife like I do my 993...

See? this forum has real value!

JPP

Porsche's will reveal their gender to you over time ... you have to be patient. I've had a male 993 and a female now .. I've had a male 356 Speedster and a female AND a male and female 914-6 as well ... they have all been distinctly of their given gender with no mistake about it .. I didn't choose, they are who they are. So ... maybe your car is male .... and maybe she's just Butch!

Ed Hughes

I think the femininity of Ruby and Sapphire are kinda like Stacy Keibler's.

Full Boost

A **** stirring thread - why am I here again......

Regardless - I have had a 911 since I was 27. In Australia they are VERY expensive. Why did I want a 911? Was it love? Lust? Admiration? No. Maybe i just thought the history, the almost "underdog" status and they way they were built was cool and they were faster and more capable than most drivers.... Most likely. Status? Nah. the way I look - i look like i stole one anyway - same with the DD.

I have had many fast and faster cars. A few cool cars too. (and a few less than stellar examples as well) I have aspired to achieve certain things in my life. Was the 911 one of them? Sure. Was it the 911 itself - or the want to be seen as being wealthy? I have been very wealthy and very poor. The ONLY difference is when you have a lot of Money - the **** you own is just a little (or a lot) more shiny.

I dont love my car. I ENJOY it. How "I" enjoy it differs to others. For some it can be cleaning it, driving it, racing it or repairing it. It's up the individual really.

Mine doesn't have a name other than "the Black car" and is ultimately a bucket of bolts.

Now - if you had asked - Has the car you driven - led to an emotional attachment to someONE? -then the answer would be yes.

Simon.

Ash

Interesting thread....

While it's true that a 993 is just a car, perhaps it's not just the fact that it is a 'thing' that makes us so enamored with them. Perhaps it's the 'complete idea' of what they represent? There's a lot of history in these cars - hell the 901 came out before I was even born yet you can trace the lineage through time to where the current 993 sits now. There's a lot of intangibles that make the quality of the experience transcend the fact that I'm merely in a piece of steel artifice coldly put together by math and engineering.

Put another way...the wedding ring on mine/my wife's hand is a piece of metal...but the idea of it represents something that I love..enamor...cherish...and lets face it, love can make people do some pretty goofy things.

The Porsche might not be in exactly the same camp...but I can see some similarities...

Edward

Have we devolved so much that we have to qualify the phrase "love my car" with ...wait, not really "love," after all, it's just an inanimate object ...what I really meant to say is...

And you or anyone here really thinks that folks "love" their cars as a normal person would define love for another?

Someone call the language police because apparently there are folks here who need help.

Edward

mcipseric

sander97C2

I believe perception plays a major role in how us car enthusiasts enjoy our specific cars i.e.the topic of discussion a Porsche. To me, I respect my car for what it offers me on a daily basis since I drive it everyday. Since I can remember my eyes would light up when I saw a Porsche driving down the road. Sure, I admit that I have an addictive personality. I still smoke these damn cigarettes and have quit before and will do it again. I'm not proud of it but we all have our flaws don't we.
Most car owners want to get from point a to b. Its rational and makes perfect sense. So, they buy a solid car and use it like any other person would.

Wouldn't you guys agree that you choose whatever Porsche you have because you feel something about the car? I sure did and still do. I love to drive it, fix it, mod it, clean it, show it off to other car buddy's. Its fun and exciting when your driving and another Porsche comes cruising the other direction and the official thumbs up appears. Ya, its pretty cheesy but who really cares. Call it what you will, I respect that everyone has their own opinion/s and stands by what they believe and feel. Its life and its interesting.
I've been connected to cars since I was a little boy. My father, a creative and very deep individual who is a fine arts college professor grew up with a father(RIP) who served in WWII and his passion was WWII vehicles i.e. tanks, planes, jeeps etc. In my youth I was around it and loved it.

Engines and the noises they emit have always interested me and make me feel good. I guess the flat six holds a special place in my life. Something words can't describe. Weird, sure I'm kinda strange. Why, I"m not sure but that doesn't really matter to me. I enjoy like many others here on this forum to drive something they simply like or love. How you perceive it is up to the individual and that's cool. I love to paint with my Iwata airbrush, I love my dog, I like reading, I like joking around, I love playing ping pong, I love the challenge of doing bodywork and painting a bumper, hood, fender etc. The list goes on and on. I'm grateful for these things in my life. So, whatever your passion is and it works for you that's just perfect. Everyone is different but isn't that whats so great about us humans. Geez, how boring would it be if we all felt the same way and all had to drive the exact same car. Ugh.
Thanks for this thread quadcammer, may the discussion continue

ble2011

Wow, great thread. I read the original post yesterday and all the posts today. There are some people on this forum that have great skills to express their thoughts in the most elegant way. I'm not one of them, but I'll try my best. I've been interested in cars all my life. Probably came from my father. When I was 17, my first car was a 1970 Chevelle SS. My father and I looked it over and I bought it for $750 - no lie. Beautiful car, new paint - red with 2 white strips, cowl induction hood, etc, but the interior needed TLC. My father also help my sister out with her first vehicle - 1972 Mustang Mach 1. Fun times. When I was young and on my own, I had a good job and could afford multiple "unique" vehicles, sometimes changing them within the year. After deciding that I needed to do something with my life, I stopped playing with cars. Now that I am "old", I decided to get back to my roots and buy myself a toy. I was looking at all different vehicles. Probably trying to regain some of the feelings I associated with vehicles when my father was still alive. I started looking at Porsche's. My wife really pushed me towards a Porsche because she said she had always liked them. I researched and decided to buy a 993 for multiple reasons. I found one at a price that I felt was so low I couldn't turn it down. After many sleepless days and nights, I flew down to TX, bought it and drove it back to WI. I had never even driven one before. Now owning it and driving it for 2 years, there is something about this vehicle that I cannot describe. All l I can say is it is so different than anything else I have ever driven and it looks and sounds so different (than most of the cars on the road). That makes it special to me. I always have in the back of my mind that someday I will have to sell it. It's a toy that I really shouldn't be investing so much money into. After all, I have a daughter that I want to send to college. Am I passionate about it? Maybe. Do I love it? Maybe. Can I sell it if I had to? Unfortunately - yes.

77'3.6vram

Made my money the old fashion way.I stole it.As per the 1994 "Sales Reference Guide" Porsche has the "owner segmentation" broken down into five buyer types:"Top Guns","Proud Patrons","Fantasists","Bon Vivants" and "Elitists".Top Guns are intense,driven individuals who buy because they want an elite racing machine.Proud Patrons enjoy the recognition they get through simple Porsche ownership,but not from driving.Fantasists especially enjoy the car for themselves,having little interest in trying to impress others.Bon Vivants represent the 'jet-setter' orientation,enjoying the 'sexy' image of driving a Porsche.Lastly,Elitists reject the stereotypical Porsche driver image and are extremely well-to-do,old money,blue blood individuals that view a Porsche as just a car,nothing more.These are all quotes from a guide given to US salesmen in 1994 to help them size up customers.The guide also states that "Porsche customers will cross over several of these groups".

Quadcammer

Its not about the language or terminology...Its about the actions.

I don't sit in my car and longingly think about the many hours it took heidi to stitch my interior together. I don't feel washing the car is a sensual experience. I don't compare driving it to sex (now THAT was weird). I don't smile every time I start it...in fact I don't smile most times that I drive it. Driving down a straight highway doesn't make me giddy just cause im in a porsche, and I have the radio on at all times.

Perhaps I'm just immune to the passion cars create in people. I'd rather treat it like a piece of transportation (although fun at times).

Edit: Just so I don't get stoned, this is not a knock on the 993 in particular. I feel this way about just about every car made, save for maybe an F40. Took a ride in an Enzo...did nothing for me...lambo gallardo? yes I enjoyed it...but still no passion...just a car.

ABCar

Hyundai

Quadcammer

they make a damn good car lately...

NC TRACKRAT

Quadcammer, have you checked your pulse lately...to be sure you have one?