SOLD: Genuine Porsche Black Leather Sport Seats.
08-31-2010, 10:50 PM
#62
Race Car
08-31-2010, 10:56 PM
#64
Rennlist Member
08-31-2010, 11:04 PM
#66
got it
I emphasized "accuracy of description," as I'm also an online buyer (hence the hoarding!).
Many times, my online purchases didn't mate with the selling description.
So, as my Porsche goodies are in exceptionally nice condition, I felt such items should go to fellow enthusiasts.
Thus listing them here.
Moving forward, to the delights of the Posters above, my FS listings will be sparse, if not nonexistent.
Many times, my online purchases didn't mate with the selling description.
So, as my Porsche goodies are in exceptionally nice condition, I felt such items should go to fellow enthusiasts.
Thus listing them here.
Moving forward, to the delights of the Posters above, my FS listings will be sparse, if not nonexistent.
08-31-2010, 11:06 PM
#67
Pro
seems like he justifies his behavior by returning the money from completed transactions.
how could they be upset, i returned their money?
he returns their money when he can find a buyer that will pay him a few bucks more, after making a deal.
returning someones money does not forgive your obligation!
breach of contract seems to be a way of life for some people.
how could they be upset, i returned their money?
he returns their money when he can find a buyer that will pay him a few bucks more, after making a deal.
returning someones money does not forgive your obligation!
breach of contract seems to be a way of life for some people.
08-31-2010, 11:14 PM
#68
Nordschleife Master
Guys, enough.
This is like watching a bully on the playground get the shiiit get kicked out of him. Even though he may deserve it, as the blood starts to pour out of various places, it still becomes hard to watch. We are better than where this thread is headed. I believe that the point has been made, big time. Can we get back to cars?
This is like watching a bully on the playground get the shiiit get kicked out of him. Even though he may deserve it, as the blood starts to pour out of various places, it still becomes hard to watch. We are better than where this thread is headed. I believe that the point has been made, big time. Can we get back to cars?
08-31-2010, 11:19 PM
#69
08-31-2010, 11:25 PM
#70
Rennlist Member
Guys, enough.
This is like watching a bully on the playground get the shiiit get kicked out of him. Even though he may deserve it, as the blood starts to pour out of various places, it still becomes hard to watch. We are better than where this thread is headed. I believe that the point has been made, big time. Can we get back to cars?
This is like watching a bully on the playground get the shiiit get kicked out of him. Even though he may deserve it, as the blood starts to pour out of various places, it still becomes hard to watch. We are better than where this thread is headed. I believe that the point has been made, big time. Can we get back to cars?
This selling approach has no place here. I've been strung along by a seller here and had goods pulled out from under me after a mutual commitment was made, so I understand Noah's pain, the pain of the six or seven other eBayers who got hosed notwithstanding.
08-31-2010, 11:32 PM
#71
Nordschleife Master
Mark, I understand. But after 5 pages, and now starting to post about his personal life, etc....isnt enough enough? Do you really think anyone is going to buy from him now? I have been emailing him back and forth and received some seat pictures as recent as yesterday. Has this string caused me to back off what would have/could have been a transaction? Yes it has. So I am a good test case. Mission accomplished. I have no horse in this particular fight, and I am not defending him. All I am saying is that at some point it starts to read like a public stoning and the good guys start to look like bad guys...
(this, written by a well known Texas Conservative, not a bleeding heart liberal)
(this, written by a well known Texas Conservative, not a bleeding heart liberal
)
08-31-2010, 11:40 PM
#72
Rennlist Member
Anyone who's been at the receiving end of tactics such as these, and I include myself here, is going to be a little sensitive and quite rightly so. The personal stuff is a little OTT and ought to be removed. I don't think it adds to the point we're trying to make.
Well here's an opportunity for PF to prove to everyone that he's a man of his word and that he won't peddle his wares on RL in future.
Well here's an opportunity for PF to prove to everyone that he's a man of his word and that he won't peddle his wares on RL in future.
08-31-2010, 11:40 PM
#73
Rennlist Member
Mark, I understand. But after 5 pages, and now starting to post about his personal life, etc....isnt enough enough? Do you really think anyone is going to buy from him now? I have been emailing him back and forth and received some seat pictures as recent as yesterday. Has this string caused me to back off what would have/could have been a transaction? Yes it has. So I am a good test case. Mission accomplished. I have no horse in this particular fight, and I am not defending him. All I am saying is that at some point it starts to read like a public stoning and the good guys start to look like bad guys...
(this, written by a well known Texas Conservative, not a bleeding heart liberal)
(this, written by a well known Texas Conservative, not a bleeding heart liberal
)
08-31-2010, 11:45 PM
#74
Mark,
I've tried reasoning with you via PM, so as not to drag the entire forum through your rants.
Your posts are hitting well "below the belt."
You've done an excellent job of magnifying a select few transaction where I felt the buyer didn't perform.
Yeah, imagine that... there are actually two parties to a transaction.
So no, just because someone has a checkbook and eventually gets around to kinda sorta holding up his end of the bargain, it by no means dictates that I have to "eject" a real legit buyer (that had more than enough time to arrive, negotiate, make payment and receive the item long before the RL check arrived - THAT'S A LOT OF TIME).
If it was truly important to the RLer, he would of FedEx'd his check and made shipping arrangements.
BTW, the RLer went so far as to say "if someone else wants the seats, you should probably sell them."
As far as the initial transaction, we never even agreed on a shipping method. In no way shape or form was this a "done deal."
But hey, that hasn't stopped the "haters" with their "if you've wrong one of us, you've wronged us all."
Furthermore, if a passing phone call (where only one aspect of the transaction is agreed upon and we'll get to the rest later), constitutes a binding "hand shake" to a select few RL posters, I got it.
Really, thanks again for the "charming" posts.
You've made your point.
I've tried reasoning with you via PM, so as not to drag the entire forum through your rants.
Your posts are hitting well "below the belt."
You've done an excellent job of magnifying a select few transaction where I felt the buyer didn't perform.
Yeah, imagine that... there are actually two parties to a transaction.
So no, just because someone has a checkbook and eventually gets around to kinda sorta holding up his end of the bargain, it by no means dictates that I have to "eject" a real legit buyer (that had more than enough time to arrive, negotiate, make payment and receive the item long before the RL check arrived - THAT'S A LOT OF TIME).
If it was truly important to the RLer, he would of FedEx'd his check and made shipping arrangements.
BTW, the RLer went so far as to say "if someone else wants the seats, you should probably sell them."
As far as the initial transaction, we never even agreed on a shipping method. In no way shape or form was this a "done deal."
But hey, that hasn't stopped the "haters" with their "if you've wrong one of us, you've wronged us all."
Furthermore, if a passing phone call (where only one aspect of the transaction is agreed upon and we'll get to the rest later), constitutes a binding "hand shake" to a select few RL posters, I got it.
Really, thanks again for the "charming" posts.
You've made your point.
09-01-2010, 12:02 AM
#75
As Mark feels that my PMs should be public, here's my last PM to Mark:
Mark,
FYI, the RLer gave me repeated verbal "outs" on this seat transaction.
Direct quotes from RLer include:
"you should probably sell the seats to someone else"
"hold onto the check when it comes, as I might not take the seats"
The RLer, definitely indicated that he wanted an "out" on the transaction.
Furthermore, the RLer would not commit to a shipping method, as I should "hold onto the check until I get back from vacation and decide for sure that I want the seats" - that is an exact quote from your beloved RL brother.
Given your posturing, I doubt that you'll give me a public apology.
Furthermore, I'm quite certain that you feel the inane right to drag me through it.
That said, I would deeply appreciate your removing the "naked man" picture from your previous post.
The association has got my family rolling on the floor laughing and their incessant taunts are getting ridiculous.
Mark,
FYI, the RLer gave me repeated verbal "outs" on this seat transaction.
Direct quotes from RLer include:
"you should probably sell the seats to someone else"
"hold onto the check when it comes, as I might not take the seats"
The RLer, definitely indicated that he wanted an "out" on the transaction.
Furthermore, the RLer would not commit to a shipping method, as I should "hold onto the check until I get back from vacation and decide for sure that I want the seats" - that is an exact quote from your beloved RL brother.
Given your posturing, I doubt that you'll give me a public apology.
Furthermore, I'm quite certain that you feel the inane right to drag me through it.
That said, I would deeply appreciate your removing the "naked man" picture from your previous post.
The association has got my family rolling on the floor laughing and their incessant taunts are getting ridiculous.
Last edited by Porsche Fan; 09-01-2010 at 12:18 AM.