Paint protection - too late? Recommendations?
#1
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Paint protection - too late? Recommendations?
I bought my 993 about 4 years ago, w/ 16K miles. I am starting to regret not getting clear bra installed when I got it. The paint (which I believe to be original) is still in great shape, but is starting to get stone chipped with increased track use and mileage.
Here's my question: do you think it would be worth getting a clear bra installed at this stage? How late is too late?
I am planning a full detail this spring to get rid of fine scratches/swirl marks, and am thinking of following up with clear bra on the hood, side mirrors, front fenders, lights and signals.
Feels like the 'last chance' to preserve original paint.
Any comments from those that have done it on paint that is not 100% perfect? I'll cross-post in the detailing forum as well.
Best,
Matt
Here's my question: do you think it would be worth getting a clear bra installed at this stage? How late is too late?
I am planning a full detail this spring to get rid of fine scratches/swirl marks, and am thinking of following up with clear bra on the hood, side mirrors, front fenders, lights and signals.
Feels like the 'last chance' to preserve original paint.
Any comments from those that have done it on paint that is not 100% perfect? I'll cross-post in the detailing forum as well.
Best,
Matt
#2
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not too late..prevents more chips and the film comes off whenever you want to take it off
i install expel film for a living..id get either expel or venture shield if i was you..both are clear coated and have 7 year warranty
i install expel film for a living..id get either expel or venture shield if i was you..both are clear coated and have 7 year warranty
#3
Former Vendor
have it detailed and prepared nicely, fix up the nicks as best possible, then wrap her up. you'll be preserving the patina!!! but it wont get worse. if you touch up , spray anything , make sure it cures big time before putting on film.
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Thanks Mike and Steve. Good advice.
I will be replacing (painting) my bumper in the fall, but will get the hood/fenders/sideviews/headlights and signals done now. Will be sure to let the paint cure well before doing the new parts in time for next season.
Best,
Matt
I will be replacing (painting) my bumper in the fall, but will get the hood/fenders/sideviews/headlights and signals done now. Will be sure to let the paint cure well before doing the new parts in time for next season.
Best,
Matt
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I can't speak from experience but I know many that have installed a clear bra on paint that has had a few minor chips. The clear bra will actually help hide some of the chips.
Keep in mind that a clear bra will also need to be cared for and it scratches pretty easily. I have it installed on my DD and it's more sensitive to scratching than the paint.
Keep in mind that a clear bra will also need to be cared for and it scratches pretty easily. I have it installed on my DD and it's more sensitive to scratching than the paint.
#6
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What color is your car? You can do touch up on the chips, then clear bra. The bra will hid the clip fixes & make it look flawless.
If it's a dark car, fix the chips! If not they will stick out like a sore thumb.
If it's a dark car, fix the chips! If not they will stick out like a sore thumb.
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I can't speak from experience but I know many that have installed a clear bra on paint that has had a few minor chips. The clear bra will actually help hide some of the chips.
Keep in mind that a clear bra will also need to be cared for and it scratches pretty easily. I have it installed on my DD and it's more sensitive to scratching than the paint.
Keep in mind that a clear bra will also need to be cared for and it scratches pretty easily. I have it installed on my DD and it's more sensitive to scratching than the paint.
#10
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The only thing that needs "protection" IMHO is the bumper. considering you aqre getting it resprayed in the fall I wouldnt bother. I only have a few nicks on the hood and on the edge near the wipers otherwise and have never seen the need for protection elsewhere. The bumper cover does take a beating though. I'm pretty **** about my car too, but the nicks in the clear bra would be just as annoying as a nick in the bumper itself. Repainting or re-clear-bra'ing runs within a $150~ or so from each other so I don't bother with it.
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The only thing that needs "protection" IMHO is the bumper. considering you aqre getting it resprayed in the fall I wouldnt bother. I only have a few nicks on the hood and on the edge near the wipers otherwise and have never seen the need for protection elsewhere. The bumper cover does take a beating though. I'm pretty **** about my car too, but the nicks in the clear bra would be just as annoying as a nick in the bumper itself. Repainting or re-clear-bra'ing runs within a $150~ or so from each other so I don't bother with it.
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The only real purpose of a clear bra is to keep the paint original. If that isn't a priority I would suggest having the front end resprayed every few years.
I know I'll take a beating on this forum for this next comment but I'm a glutton for punishment so here goes.
Since I drive and show my car I use a Porsche bra on longer distance trips. Yeah it's ugly but the front end stays perfect and I don't have spend extra time cleaning up the bug juice after a blast through the back country roads.
I've seen many clear bra installations and very few have truly impressed me. It's a pain to keep wax from building up on the edges and as others have mentioned the clear bra does show marks from where the rocks hit it. Again this is speaking from experience on my DD. I also noticed that the bra shrinks slightly with time and leaves a residue on the paint which is very difficult to remove. It's a good solution for a DD but I prefer the regular bra for the Sunday driver/show car. YMMV
I know I'll take a beating on this forum for this next comment but I'm a glutton for punishment so here goes.
Since I drive and show my car I use a Porsche bra on longer distance trips. Yeah it's ugly but the front end stays perfect and I don't have spend extra time cleaning up the bug juice after a blast through the back country roads.
I've seen many clear bra installations and very few have truly impressed me. It's a pain to keep wax from building up on the edges and as others have mentioned the clear bra does show marks from where the rocks hit it. Again this is speaking from experience on my DD. I also noticed that the bra shrinks slightly with time and leaves a residue on the paint which is very difficult to remove. It's a good solution for a DD but I prefer the regular bra for the Sunday driver/show car. YMMV
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The only real purpose of a clear bra is to keep the paint original. If that isn't a priority I would suggest having the front end resprayed every few years.
I know I'll take a beating on this forum for this next comment but I'm a glutton for punishment so here goes.
Since I drive and show my car I use a Porsche bra on longer distance trips. Yeah it's ugly but the front end stays perfect and I don't have spend extra time cleaning up the bug juice after a blast through the back country roads.
I've seen many clear bra installations and very few have truly impressed me. It's a pain to keep wax from building up on the edges and as others have mentioned the clear bra does show marks from where the rocks hit it. Again this is speaking from experience on my DD. I also noticed that the bra shrinks slightly with time and leaves a residue on the paint which is very difficult to remove. It's a good solution for a DD but I prefer the regular bra for the Sunday driver/show car. YMMV
I know I'll take a beating on this forum for this next comment but I'm a glutton for punishment so here goes.
Since I drive and show my car I use a Porsche bra on longer distance trips. Yeah it's ugly but the front end stays perfect and I don't have spend extra time cleaning up the bug juice after a blast through the back country roads.
I've seen many clear bra installations and very few have truly impressed me. It's a pain to keep wax from building up on the edges and as others have mentioned the clear bra does show marks from where the rocks hit it. Again this is speaking from experience on my DD. I also noticed that the bra shrinks slightly with time and leaves a residue on the paint which is very difficult to remove. It's a good solution for a DD but I prefer the regular bra for the Sunday driver/show car. YMMV
The other thing about original paint is when you get a front fender , hood repainted pay extra $$ and ask all old paint stripped off and confuse those guys with paint meters .
Last edited by briefescape; 04-12-2010 at 11:46 PM.
#14
Nordschleife Master
There are a couple of different types of clear bra.
My C4S has Venturshield. I had the whole front end done, whole hood, whole bumpers. There is about 3 lines on the whole front end. If I don't point it out, you will not know it's there.
The clear bra is easier to detail, I only have to polish the back end of the car, it has held up wonderfully. the very front end has a couple of nics. But when I had the front end repainted, it got a couple of nics on it's drive home form the paint shop. The clear bra should last quite a long time before it needs to be replaced, when it does, I'll just do the parts that are messed up, like the lower Aero Kit II lip.
If the bra gets just scratched, you can heat it up, & the scratch will go away.
If you want to repaint the front end every couple of years, that fine. I didn't want to. My bra has been on there for 2+ years now, & only has 2-3 nics in it. Vs 10-15 from driving with out it.
In my case, I wanted my black car to look at perfect as possible, & still be able to drive it with out worry.
My C4S has Venturshield. I had the whole front end done, whole hood, whole bumpers. There is about 3 lines on the whole front end. If I don't point it out, you will not know it's there.
The clear bra is easier to detail, I only have to polish the back end of the car, it has held up wonderfully. the very front end has a couple of nics. But when I had the front end repainted, it got a couple of nics on it's drive home form the paint shop. The clear bra should last quite a long time before it needs to be replaced, when it does, I'll just do the parts that are messed up, like the lower Aero Kit II lip.
If the bra gets just scratched, you can heat it up, & the scratch will go away.
If you want to repaint the front end every couple of years, that fine. I didn't want to. My bra has been on there for 2+ years now, & only has 2-3 nics in it. Vs 10-15 from driving with out it.
In my case, I wanted my black car to look at perfect as possible, & still be able to drive it with out worry.
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The biggest drawback i saw was that defects can't be polished out in most cases like they can in paint.
Please tell me a bit about heating it up to remove scratches. Do you use a clothes iron or low heat soldering iron or?
I know you AX your car(s), do you also AX the black 4S? If so, do you tape the clear bra @ events........ where does it all end?
thanks
Craig