www.panamera.com
10-21-2009, 09:08 AM
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Have you guys seen this website? Its awesome, it gives your Porsche' history, lineage, videos, and interviews and downloads. You can even upload your car and your own Porsche story. I haven’t seen it mentioned on here and I thought it was something fellow enthusiasts and owners would be interested. in.
10-21-2009, 09:46 AM
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I find it amusing that Porsche is trying to tie their heritage into this sedan. This car has about as much in common with a 993 as a Yugo. Its laughable at best and shows how far they have fallen from what they were.
This atrocity goes hand in hand with the Cayenne.
This atrocity goes hand in hand with the Cayenne.
10-21-2009, 09:51 AM
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10-21-2009, 12:32 PM
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I can't believe that POS Panamera (and its evil twin the Cayenne) is even allowed to be mentioned in this forum...someone should do something about it 
10-21-2009, 05:20 PM
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10-21-2009, 05:33 PM
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Listen, you all need to back off! The Camry, er, Panamera, is one of the finest cars made by BMW, er Mercedes, er, Toyota. Oops, I mean Porsche.
Sorry, I get confused sometimes. Maybe because now there really is no difference between Porsche and any other mass-production car company.
Hey, if selling the Cobalt allows Chevy to still build the Corvette I'm all for it. Damn! I meant, if selling the Cayennamera allows Porsche to sell the waaay overpriced GT3 RS, I'm all for it!
Go Toyota, er, Porsche!
Sorry, I get confused sometimes. Maybe because now there really is no difference between Porsche and any other mass-production car company.
Hey, if selling the Cobalt allows Chevy to still build the Corvette I'm all for it. Damn! I meant, if selling the Cayennamera allows Porsche to sell the waaay overpriced GT3 RS, I'm all for it!
Go Toyota, er, Porsche!
10-21-2009, 06:07 PM
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Too bad Porsche didn't cease operations when the 993 production stopped, that way you nay sayers would be happy.
It's survival and market share, why buy an E or S class or 5 or 7 series when you could have a Panamera?
Same thing for the Cayenne...
I bet more market studies were done on the profitability of the Panamera than have been done on a 911.
911 - iconic.
Panamera/Cayenne/Coxster/Boxster - Money makers.
It's survival and market share, why buy an E or S class or 5 or 7 series when you could have a Panamera?
Same thing for the Cayenne...
I bet more market studies were done on the profitability of the Panamera than have been done on a 911.
911 - iconic.
Panamera/Cayenne/Coxster/Boxster - Money makers.
10-21-2009, 06:10 PM
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The 911 makes plenty of money.
Porsche was the most profitable auto maker in the world, BEFORE the Cayenne or Panamera came out.
But, whatever, it doesn't really matter anymore, now that VW owns them.
Porsche was the most profitable auto maker in the world, BEFORE the Cayenne or Panamera came out.
But, whatever, it doesn't really matter anymore, now that VW owns them.
10-21-2009, 06:29 PM
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The thing is, Porsche could justify the outrageous sums they charged for their cars back in the day: they were sort of hand-built and in relatively small quantities.
My problem is now that Porsche is just like every other car builder, yet they still charge a premium that, in my mind, is not justified. Part of the reason one would pay extra for a Porsche was for the higher build quality and exclusivity, not to mention the heritage of the marque.
With Porsche now approaching 150,000 units a year, the exclusivity is gone. And many feel the quality and durability of these cars have been undermined by the growth and other changes. And with the SUV and the Panamera, the marque has unquestionably been diluted.
Could Porsche have survived without the SUVs and Panamera? Sure. The problem is mindset. The Powers That Be at Porsche don't care about exclusivity or heritage, and build quality is only a concern to them for the first 3 years/36,000 miles, or whatever the warranty period is.
All they care about, it seems all that most this world cares about, is MONEY. Everything else, and I mean everything else, is an afterthought.
My problem is now that Porsche is just like every other car builder, yet they still charge a premium that, in my mind, is not justified. Part of the reason one would pay extra for a Porsche was for the higher build quality and exclusivity, not to mention the heritage of the marque.
With Porsche now approaching 150,000 units a year, the exclusivity is gone. And many feel the quality and durability of these cars have been undermined by the growth and other changes. And with the SUV and the Panamera, the marque has unquestionably been diluted.
Could Porsche have survived without the SUVs and Panamera? Sure. The problem is mindset. The Powers That Be at Porsche don't care about exclusivity or heritage, and build quality is only a concern to them for the first 3 years/36,000 miles, or whatever the warranty period is.
All they care about, it seems all that most this world cares about, is MONEY. Everything else, and I mean everything else, is an afterthought.
10-21-2009, 07:43 PM
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Who here remembers going into a dealer circa 1992-4? Think that business model could still exist?
I have no interest in any of the current Porsches, whether they are the sports cars, sedans, or trucks. But if they gauge customer demand for these variants, have at it. People's jobs and careers are at stake. I rather enjoyed meeting some from the factory at the Panamera launch at the Historics/Pebble Beach week.
Does it give anyone the warm fuzzies to think a car is "exclusive"? News flash--anyone who can pony up the cash can buy one. Any of them. From a Carrera GT to a POS 944. I've got mine for what they offer as a driving experience; wish that more looked at them that way instead of three-dimensional artwork or what the cash value is day-to-day.
I have no interest in any of the current Porsches, whether they are the sports cars, sedans, or trucks. But if they gauge customer demand for these variants, have at it. People's jobs and careers are at stake. I rather enjoyed meeting some from the factory at the Panamera launch at the Historics/Pebble Beach week.
Does it give anyone the warm fuzzies to think a car is "exclusive"? News flash--anyone who can pony up the cash can buy one. Any of them. From a Carrera GT to a POS 944. I've got mine for what they offer as a driving experience; wish that more looked at them that way instead of three-dimensional artwork or what the cash value is day-to-day.