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what is that .. ???????
new porsche managment give a sh*** the heritage ...
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Listen, you all need to back off! The Camry, er, Panamera, is one of the finest cars made by BMW, er Mercedes, er, Toyota. Oops, I mean Porsche.
Sorry, I get confused sometimes. Maybe because now there really is no difference between Porsche and any other mass-production car company.
Hey, if selling the Cobalt allows Chevy to still build the Corvette I'm all for it. Damn! I meant, if selling the Cayennamera allows Porsche to sell the waaay overpriced GT3 RS, I'm all for it!
Go Toyota, er, Porsche!
Sorry, I get confused sometimes. Maybe because now there really is no difference between Porsche and any other mass-production car company.
Hey, if selling the Cobalt allows Chevy to still build the Corvette I'm all for it. Damn! I meant, if selling the Cayennamera allows Porsche to sell the waaay overpriced GT3 RS, I'm all for it!
Go Toyota, er, Porsche!
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Brings in a whole different demographic of clients who never considered the brand, rounds out the entire brand lineup. The potential that Porsche stays a part of VW does not have an effect on the current marketing plans or model lineup. That’s just my opinion neither of us are privy to the business plans of Porsche or VW.
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How much was invested in development and tooling for this vehicle?
How many other 'non Porsche' models will share the unibody?
How many Panameras need to be sold to recoup the investment and continued operation of the line?
At least the Cayenne was "shared" with the Touareg...or perhaps the other way 'round....which over it's run since 2003 has probably returned a profit.
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Consider how long it takes from conception/approval to product release for a modern Porsche....3-4 years?
So, in that time, there are many components that need to be designed, or used in common with other platforms from other VAG units.
Therefore, a person involved with this part of the business would perhaps see what the product lineup would look like, in addition to knowing when current models (modules) are to be phased out.
Hypothetically speaking of course.
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Listen, you all need to back off! The Camry, er, Panamera, is one of the finest cars made by BMW, er Mercedes, er, Toyota. Oops, I mean Porsche.
Sorry, I get confused sometimes. Maybe because now there really is no difference between Porsche and any other mass-production car company.
Hey, if selling the Cobalt allows Chevy to still build the Corvette I'm all for it. Damn! I meant, if selling the Cayennamera allows Porsche to sell the waaay overpriced GT3 RS, I'm all for it!
Go Toyota, er, Porsche!
Sorry, I get confused sometimes. Maybe because now there really is no difference between Porsche and any other mass-production car company.
Hey, if selling the Cobalt allows Chevy to still build the Corvette I'm all for it. Damn! I meant, if selling the Cayennamera allows Porsche to sell the waaay overpriced GT3 RS, I'm all for it!
Go Toyota, er, Porsche!
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I got to drive one in August and I was impressed with it. The fit and finish are superior than the Lexus. It has a personality where Japanese cars have no soul. Plus it does look better in person than the pics.
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If I want a $150,000 4-door anytime soon, my money's on the Rapide or maybe the Karma.
It may have tons of personality, but ugly girls usually do
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By judging by the pictures both have lots of personality. And with the Karma hairy legs and arm pits as well. ![bigbye](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/xyxwave.gif)
While not as ugly as the BMW X6 or 5 Series all I can say personality, lots of personality.
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While not as ugly as the BMW X6 or 5 Series all I can say personality, lots of personality.
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Brings in a whole different demographic of clients who never considered the brand, rounds out the entire brand lineup. The potential that Porsche stays a part of VW does not have an effect on the current marketing plans or model lineup. That’s just my opinion neither of us are privy to the business plans of Porsche or VW.
"The potential that Porsche stays a part of VW does not have an effect on the current marketing plans or model lineup." Of course not. The current lineup was put into play well before it was even realistically imaginable that Porsche was going to become a division of VW.
Still trying to figure out why you think the Panamera is so important to the future of Porsche. The only relevance I see for the Panamera is that if it is wildly successful, that makes it that much LESS likely that VW would ever divest itself of its successful Porsche division.
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Autocar.co.uk's "How Porsche will double sales"
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Volkswagen boss Martin Winterkorn has outlined the new models he hopes will double Porsche's sales in the next four years.
He added that this was a realistic target thanks to new models, which could include a new model smaller than the Boxster, its smallest car so far, a "little brother" to the Cayenne and an additional version of the new Panamera.
He added that this was a realistic target thanks to new models, which could include a new model smaller than the Boxster, its smallest car so far, a "little brother" to the Cayenne and an additional version of the new Panamera.
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Brings in a whole different demographic of clients who never considered the brand, rounds out the entire brand lineup. The potential that Porsche stays a part of VW does not have an effect on the current marketing plans or model lineup. That’s just my opinion neither of us are privy to the business plans of Porsche or VW.
But, and this is a huge BUT, why on Earth it has to be so friggin' uuuugggllyyyy?!
What's the "good" in that?
Had they built the Panamera and it looked like that Aston Martin someone posted earlier, I'd be very ok with it but when they build a car, that in 1st place I don't agree Porsche should build, and then go ahead and make it one of the ugliest 4 doors out there (including all the crappy cheapos), it's VERY difficult to defend or justify.