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Old 07-21-2008, 10:51 AM
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I don't think you can title this thread justice anymore. I belive this guy has not learned his lesson. I'm not saying you have to lynch him or anything, but without another face to face confrontation he will not truly realize what a looser he really is. He is getting off to lightly with out doing the interview, or at least showing up for it. IMHO
Old 07-21-2008, 11:12 AM
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Go ahead with the interview and give him the best day of his life. or else some people will never learn how to respect things of others. its pay back time! good luck!
Old 07-21-2008, 12:07 PM
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I have the day off and would love an update with my morning coffee
Old 07-21-2008, 01:01 PM
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It's 5PM Dublin time, offices are closing. Time for a well diserved pint of Guinness... hurry up Allffy! We cannot wait anymore Debrief please
Old 07-21-2008, 01:43 PM
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Ok, I concur that he HAS to learn SOMETHING from it, and canceling the interview he learns nothing. Here's what I would do:

A) Really sorry about the dent in the first place, and well played not killing him where there were probably parking lot security cameras
B) Keep the interview
C) Video it, and have whomever is escorting him in (without you in the room) record that "we videotape the interviews, do I have your consent?"
D) Have the plainclothes cop come in as the co-interviewer
E) Have the cop take him away after admitting it
F) On the presentation, yeah, I think wrecking his weekend is part of the justice
G) I wouldn't trash him with employers or in any other way...then you start to get more liable for slander and such.
H) You HAVE to post on YouTube!!!
Old 07-21-2008, 02:53 PM
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Canceling the interview, while I suppose is one reasonable way to approach this, is letting the guy get off easily. Imagine the absolute relief once he realizes how you saved him by avoiding a very embarrassing and sobering experience.

I highly doubt getting the cops involved at this point will have any value. The guy will say he apologized and that he paid for the damages, which if I understood correctly he in fact did. The cops will just say OK, the situation is resolved. At most, he'll get a fine of some sort, maybe a misdemeanor. Big deal.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy got away with the most desirable outcome possible out of many other more effective options (again, in my opinion).
You certainly didn't do anything wrong, and you probably did the most level-headed thing, but if I was the guy who did that there is no way I would have learned my lesson. I would have a drink and be thankful I got away with what could have been very ugly.

Originally Posted by Academictech
This story is a great conversation piece and tells a lot about ones personal morals, values and ethics.
I completely disagree, there are too many variables and too few details of the actual incident to make judgments about morals, values and ethics.

And for you to say you can tell what our morals, values, and ethics are from our little opinions here on Rennlist is ludicrous.

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Old 07-21-2008, 03:27 PM
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Unless the Dublin police have a lot more time on their hands than police here, I would guess the police scenario won't happen...just too small an offense and ancient history at this point. I would still want to meet the guy at the interview and have a fatherly talk about how stupid moves like kicking a car can have consequences far beyond one's expectations. I also applaud your measured response and totally agree any attempt to get even only lowers you to his level. My guess is once he realizes you are a factor at his potential new employer it will be a lesson learned regardless.
Old 07-21-2008, 03:43 PM
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The vandal got caught red-handed. He was publicly embarrassed and paid cash reparations for his stupidity. Whether he knows it or not, he has not only lost the opportunity to secure a new, possibly better job but has also significantly reduced his chances for professional advancement as there are now people in his industry that know what kind of person he is. I would say that the vandal will be paying a very high price for his actions and allffy will significantly reduce his exposure to further retribution by the vandal by not engaging further. Allffy is in a very unique situation and we all would've loved to have seen the interview on youtube but stopping short at canceling the interview and making a police report seems like the smart thing to do.
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No update?
Old 07-21-2008, 09:20 PM
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You guys in the USA realize it would likely be illegal to cancel the interview based on the act of vandalism and if you told him that was the reason he could sue you and/or your company? Going to the police after you have had him pay for the damages is also likely not to be viewed favorably.
Old 07-21-2008, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom W
You guys in the USA realize it would likely be illegal to cancel the interview based on the act of vandalism and if you told him that was the reason he could sue you and/or your company? Going to the police after you have had him pay for the damages is also likely not to be viewed favorably.
I'm intrigued: under what pretense could he sue? Wouldn't witnessing the candidate incurring willful destruction of someone else's property be reason enough to judge his capacity to do the job to be impaired?
Old 07-21-2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom W
You guys in the USA realize it would likely be illegal to cancel the interview based on the act of vandalism and if you told him that was the reason he could sue you and/or your company? Going to the police after you have had him pay for the damages is also likely not to be viewed favorably.
Cause of action please? It's an interview, no offer has been made that I have read about. In addition, I don't see any torts that might apply, not an intentional tort, no negligence, etc.....
Old 07-21-2008, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom W
You guys in the USA realize it would likely be illegal to cancel the interview based on the act of vandalism and if you told him that was the reason he could sue you and/or your company? Going to the police after you have had him pay for the damages is also likely not to be viewed favorably.
Do you practice law?
Old 07-21-2008, 10:54 PM
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I hope the legal bottom feeders don't control the "Dubs" as they do us here in the good ole USA.

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:13 PM
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Sheeez I thought about this all weekend and couldn't wait to hear the update!!!!!!!!!


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