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Old 09-03-2021, 08:41 AM
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Hi there, I know I could get banned for posting this as it sounds wrong.
It doesn't sound right even for me but in my country and city, the emission legislation is getting tough and not only makes it expensive but almost impossible to drive a classic car (any car or bike).

I was wondering if anyone could be interested in working in a project like this and I want to say sorry to anyone I might have hurted by posting this.

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Originally Posted by Jsancho007
Hi there, I know I could get banned for posting this as it sounds wrong.
It doesn't sound right even for me but in my country and city, the emission legislation is getting tough and not only makes it expensive but almost impossible to drive a classic car (any car or bike).

I was wondering if anyone could be interested in working in a project like this and I want to say sorry to anyone I might have hurted by posting this.

Thanks in advance
Find a 993 in the junkyard. Something that is irretrievably broken.

Fix her up and make the car whole again. That is your penance.

Do that and I feel ok about something like this.

But PLEASE…do not take a good car and rip it apart to make it electric.
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I'm 120% with you ... my 1973 911 is original condition ... just thinking about it feels like raping her ... I'd defo go your route buying a wrecked 993, but I'd like someone to help me with it the project in terms of: should I keep the transmission? should I keep the original trac control? and how? which batteries should I use? where should I place them to balance the car? ....
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This is not a DIY solution but you might get some ideas from how this company did it:


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Originally Posted by jrmdir
This is not a DIY solution but you might get some ideas from how this company did it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38_OovAzkRM

Ron

Thanks matey
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Originally Posted by Jsancho007
I'm 120% with you ... my 1973 911 is original condition ... just thinking about it feels like raping her ... I'd defo go your route buying a wrecked 993, but I'd like someone to help me with it the project in terms of: should I keep the transmission? should I keep the original trac control? and how? which batteries should I use? where should I place them to balance the car? ....
It's an interesting question and I wish I had more insight into it. My feeling is that you'd ditch the transmission to keep it simple. I'd actually suggest putting the batteries in the rear to maintain the traditional rear engine balance. You'd probably have to also convert to EPS steering (or I suppose go with a manual rack). Maybe there is a wrecked Tesla or other EV that you could use to do a swap? You'd also have to figure out a regenerative braking solution.
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Hi J,
It has been done before and there may even be a kit to do it.
Call these guys and ask them about it.
https://www.evwest.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=224
I would only consider it on a car with a missing or destroyed engine as the long-term value of the car will probably be less than the sum of the value of the remaining original parts kept.
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I think this is a great idea. There is nothing 'sacred' about a 993, people need to get over this idea, they were mass made in their thousands.

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How dare you say that! You probably are one of those people that would actually put miles on a 993... maybe even supercharge it.
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To me it would make the most sense to find an intact car in need of an engine. That being said, unless you have serious money to burn or the resources to fabricate the required parts to mate a Tesla motor to a Porsche transaxle…I don’t see it happening.
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Originally Posted by pp000830
Call these guys and ask them about it.
https://www.evwest.com/catalog/produ...roducts_id=224
I have no idea of how good a system this is, but the price isn't completely crazy though I have to think sourcing batteries isn't easy or inexpensive.

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Originally Posted by Meenrod
I think this is a great idea. There is nothing 'sacred' about a 993, people need to get over this idea, they were mass made in their thousands.
I disagree. They're not making more of these. It's not a holy relic but converting a perfectly functioning 993 to electric would bug me - and I converted my C4S to RWD so it's not like I'm a stickler for originality.

If it's a junker that you're saving? Different story.
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From an aftermarket offering to the public perspective, these kits will need to be drop-in replacements for people to buy them. In other words; remove fuel tank, drop engine tray/transmission, remove oil cooling system and engine harness, and someone will need to design the motors/controller to bolt into the car the exact same way. For a 993, that would be having them packaged into a factory shaped engine tray. Batteries up front where the spare tire and fuel tank was. The fact is, in 20-30 years people will be taking all kinds of mint condition classic cars and wanting to do these conversions.

That said, for any project, ALWAYS start with the nicest car you can afford.
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Originally Posted by rk-d
I disagree. They're not making more of these. It's not a holy relic but converting a perfectly functioning 993 to electric would bug me - and I converted my C4S to RWD so it's not like I'm a stickler for originality.

If it's a junker that you're saving? Different story.
It's the same story. Different sides of the same cup. You converted a C4S to RWD. You could have looked for a C2S. It's your car so do what you like with it. He's interested in updating his powertrain. It's not like we are talking about a one off coach built Bugatti.
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Originally Posted by Meenrod
It's the same story. Different sides of the same cup. You converted a C4S to RWD. You could have looked for a C2S. It's your car so do what you like with it. He's interested in updating his powertrain. It's not like we are talking about a one off coach built Bugatti.
I'd argue installing a skateboard style EV platform into a 993 is basically turning it into a Tesla with a 993 body. It's not the same car. Far cry from AWD>RWD. Just my opinion, I get it that you don't agree.

If he did some sort of bespoke install with rear weight bias, etc, that could be very interesting. Still won't have an air cooled engine and, I'm sorry, that's an important part of the package. That said, it has the potential to be a cool car if he did some bonkers install like Bisimoto did with a 935

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