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Old 03-25-2004, 01:12 PM
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Default Yep, cat bypasses are too loud, what's better?

I installed RSRs and while they sound great, they are a little quiet for my taste. I installed Fabspeed cat bypass pipes yesterday. They have plenty of 'bark', but the nice mechanical sounds, fan, etc. are gone. I drive with my top down 99% of the time and love the fan sound.

So, what would be an alternative? Something a bit louder than the RSRs, but not nearly as loud as the cat bypasses? Something that has a little bark, good burble sounds on decel, but still allows me to hear the fan??
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what about a sports cat system? Should be somewhere in between.

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Old 03-25-2004, 01:31 PM
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Richard, I currently have fabspeeds on my car, while I have the polished RSRs as coffee table art (while the SO is out of town )



Listen to my car with the fabspeeds in Fontana on Saturday and judge for yourself. ( I'd give them to you to try out, but the outlets are for a widebody (2S/4S).

Edit: Just to clarify-- it is the Fabspeed mufflers (maxi-flo??) that are on my car... stock cat

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Old 03-25-2004, 01:33 PM
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Agree with Max...try out Supercups. I have a set on mine but right now they are a bit loud and most of the packing is burnt out....have a set of CC Inserts that I need to install one day....so many mods, so little time...
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100cell Sport CATs

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Where do I find trhe sport cats??
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Originally posted by Michael S.
Where do I find trhe sport cats??
http://www.fvd-web.com/fvd-usa/index-usa.html

Also, Cargraphic sells them specifically for the 993 ..sold by www.bydesignautomotive.com


...and I bet others do too!
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I'm getting the Cargraphic ones installed this weekend (hopefully)

You can buy the cargraphic ones direct also:

xxCutting Edge Automotive Tech
xx653 Sayre Ave Perth Amboy NJ 08861
xxTel.: 7328261002 • Fax: 7328264706
xxEmail: cargraphicUSA@aol.com
xxWeb: www.cargraphic.com
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Max - Looking forward to hearing your setup Sat morning!
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it is a pretty good sound. a slight rumble at idle. good burble when you let off. nice howl (with the motorsound airbox lid) at WOT. There is a slight increase in the drone at about 2700-2900 rpm, but nothing as bad as a set of B&Bs that i heard.
not too obnoxious....not too muted.....might be just the ticket for a cabriolet.
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Richard,

You might check out my comments on muffler (not cat) bypass pipes on the 993TT board. I will grant you that they may be louder in a NA car, but they are perfect IMO for a TT. Like you, I had the RSR's before.

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Richard.. I was seriously considering going the Fabspeed cap-bypass route; was it just too loud? was it "set off car alarms for miles" loud, or just "set off car alarms in the parking garage" loud?

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and do they set off the CEL?
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Originally posted by dr kenneth e garchow
and do they set off the CEL?
The cat by-pass on a 95 993 will NOT set off any CEL because it is OBD I with only one sensor.. and it is on the bypass pipe (at least the plug is there on the fabspeed one)


The 96-98 993 has 4 sensors and is OBDII so I get the feeling that the CEL light WILL get triggered without the cats... Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong!
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No problem with the CEL on my '95.

Yes, they will set off car alarms for miles. They are *loud*. When I first fired the car up, it reminded me of my Formula Ford from years ago, running a straight pipe. They sound really good at WOT, though... but race-car good, not street-car good. I don't mind a little loud, but these are so loud that everyone turns their heads when you go by. A little too obnoxious for me.


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