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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 10:46 AM
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just swap out the seats,l floor mats and steering wheel for black ones and you will be surprised how good it looks. as you mentioned keep the originals.
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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gert 993

i'm interessted about the carbon fiber parts, what do the look like and where do i find them?
Here is the source that I have browsed:

http://www.kunststofftechnik-buehler...uid=16&show=12

I don't have any of the parts but other forum members have spoken highly of the quality. Not inexpensive but you generally get what you pay for.
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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 11:21 AM
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very unique
someone sat down at a dealer and checked a ton of special order red, and paid a ton of money for it.
all these things circled are special order, cheap to replace with black if you wanted to, but probably impossible to replace in red.
pillars, roof liner, visors, passenger air bag cover, steering column cover, all one time special order.
unlikely to be another interior like it in the world.

also seems like if ordered that way there are mechanical special orders too, maybe cruise and ac were a factory delete?
maybe rs engine parts or transmission?
lots of fun.




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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by k722070
very unique
someone sat down at a dealer and checked a ton of special order red, and paid a ton of money for it.
all these things circled are special order, cheap to replace with black if you wanted to, but probably impossible to replace in red.
pillars, roof liner, visors, passenger air bag cover, steering column cover, all one time special order.
unlikely to be another interior like it in the world.

also seems like if ordered that way there are mechanical special orders too, maybe cruise and ac were a factory delete?
maybe rs engine parts or transmission?
lots of fun.




definately a beauty, big fan of that red interior. Please take a picture of the build from the sticker under the bonnet, by the latch. Be interesting to see the build codes.
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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Magdaddy
definately a beauty, big fan of that red interior. Please take a picture of the build from the sticker under the bonnet, by the latch. Be interesting to see the build codes.
Today i received the information from the Porsche database.
I'm confused about a few things:
1: According to this info the car should have a Cashmere beige/black interior. LG
2: The invoice talks about 08-07-1994, but first registration date is 11 oktober 1995.
3: Model Year 1994, but option 718 tells Modeljahr 95. and chassisnummer 10th digit is S this should be model year 1995.

There are some more interesting codes:
718 Numerik Modelljahr '95 S-Programm (what do they mean with S-Programm?)
534 Diebstahlsicherungsanlage (does the car have a Alarm? I have no remote)
09991 EXC-optionen mit Abweichungen (what can this be?)

Can somebody tel me more about the option codes on the car?
And how accurate is the info from the Porsche databank?




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Old Mar 23, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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Great timing for a Gert rebuild thread. What a treat!!!
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 01:18 AM
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Info on the 993 '718' option:

https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...ode-718-a.html
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 08:29 AM
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So its a model 1995 specs, build in 1994, with a 1994 engine.

if I look at the invoice1 date, and date first registered (november 1995)
the car has been with the dealer for a whole year.
Maybe a customer decided to buy the car but requested the Flamenco red interior.
that could explain why the interior-code don’t match.
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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Interesting that the paperwork says "Country Equipment - CO2 USA"
Perhaps this car was originally going to the US or are all Euro 993 models given US emissions?

Very nice find Gert. Changing the steering wheel and the seats should nicely tone down that interior.

Just by the way, my "actual 1995" model was built in 09/94 so only 6 months apart.
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyp
Interesting that the paperwork says "Country Equipment - CO2 USA"
Perhaps this car was originally going to the US or are all Euro 993 models given US emissions?

Very nice find Gert. Changing the steering wheel and the seats should nicely tone down that interior.

Just by the way, my "actual 1995" model was built in 09/94 so only 6 months apart.
No Euro cars have ROW specs and have a E approval number.
This car is first registered oktober 1995 in Kuwait, seems that Kuwait is ordening US spec cars.
The car is exported to Europe in januari 2009, and in june 2009 the car was sold and never registered again.
So the car is only used for about 13,5 years

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Keep the interior original...
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by abiazis
Keep the interior original...
I strongly agree. Keep the original interior. Black floor mats will help a lot.

My car is the opposite (Guards Red exterior with black interior) and I'd trade you in a nano-second!

This car is special.

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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by abiazis
Keep the interior original...
Originally Posted by fatmike
I strongly agree. Keep the original interior. Black floor mats will help a lot.

My car is the opposite (Guards Red exterior with black interior) and I'd trade you in a nano-second!

This car is special.

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No panic, i won’t do anything that is irreversible.
But, I will try the black mats first 😁
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 08:51 PM
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I'm going to guess the S-Programm is special wishes program.
maybe post a pic of the hood sticker for options codes
there are threads on cars with special options
https://rennlist.com/forums/993-foru...re-thread.html
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Old Mar 24, 2020 | 09:30 PM
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What a fantastic car. You may grow to like the all red.

Originally Posted by Gert 993
There are some more interesting codes:
718 Numerik Modelljahr '95 S-Programm (what do they mean with S-Programm?)
534 Diebstahlsicherungsanlage (does the car have a Alarm? I have no remote)
09991 EXC-optionen mit Abweichungen (what can this be?)
Originally Posted by k722070
I'm going to guess the S-Programm is special wishes program.
Special Wishes was renamed Exclusive several years prior.

Option 718 is for a model year adjustment. Under certain regulations at the time, a manufacturer could reVIN a car to a newer model year. A 718 car is reVINned, but done so by the factory and therefore is has no VIN issues. Read about it here: http://968register.org/optionalequip...tion-code-718/ . I don't know what "S-Program" refers to, but may have to do with the 10th VIN character (model year signifier) being changed to S.

The EXC option is an Exclusive option. The documents I have don't show it. Exclusive brochures stopped using the EXC prefix in calendar year 1989. They then switched to X## (they would later add Z, etc.). As you probably know, Optionen mit Abweichungen translates to "Options with changes."

I am not an expert on the inner workings of Exclusive, but if I had to guess the meaning of code 09991, I would imagine it instructed the factory to see an attached note for the customer's requests (portions of or the group of which was not contained by normal Exclusive options). Exclusive-processed invoices today can still have handwritten notes sent to the factory.

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