RUF 993 BTR info
05-06-2002, 09:17 PM
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RUF 993 BTR info
I saw a 1995 factory Ruf 993 over the weekend and love its looks and features.It looks like a blend of a turbo and a RS.Does anyone have any knowledge of the reliability of one of these modified engines or any RUF experience at all? I checked thier website for tech info and some article reprints and it sounds like an awesome ride with 420 hp from single turbo.Any input would be helpful before I lose all self control and purchase it.
05-06-2002, 11:18 PM
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Ruf has a very good reputation over here in Europe. He was the first Porsche tuner in Europe (started with the 911SC) and is specialized on Porsche. I have read a number of running reports on his modified cars in a French Porsche magazine and they get very good marks for durability.
05-07-2002, 12:25 AM
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Contact Stuart (Service) or Asgar(Parts) at Weissach (www.weissach.com). They are authorized RUF distributors, have upgraded some of our member cars to RUF standards. Stuart should be able to give you a good idea of the durability and perhaps what to watch out for.
I have no affiliation with Weissach but I do use them for parts and service, so just a satisfied customer.
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I have no affiliation with Weissach but I do use them for parts and service, so just a satisfied customer.
Cheers,
Mike
05-07-2002, 01:05 AM
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Hi,
I drove a 1996 RUF BTR 2 for a little while. was looking at buying the one car that resides in New Zealand (ex Singapore).
I did an inordinate amount of research on this model and decided in the end that I could afford to buy the car but I couldnt afford to "own it" if you know what I mean. The car in question was very unique (Chassis number 006 and a fully optioned ex factory BTR 2 with EKS transmission), and I like a good drive - in the end I decided my modified 993 C2 can still scare me and I dont need to trad it with "Kid gloves"!
Having said that - it seemed like an awesome car (VERY fast), and reasonably reliable (I have full service records for the car in question).
The mechanicals are well beefed up to manage the increased demands of a K27 turbo.Concerns over the wiring loom are still and issue (RUF modified the factory loom). The engine used in non varioram with the 964 manually adjusted lifters. Essentially the car is about the same as a turbo to service.
The EKS transmission has recieved mixed reviews. It works well but you need to know a service agent that has the software to address any issues should they arise.
Lastly - tyres and brakes. The discs used on the car are RUF - and are not standard turbo sizes. ZThe back tyres are 285s and the car tears through them at an alarming rate (rear wheel drive, 420 hp).
All in all these are awesome cars - and probably the top of the pile in the "tuner category". The car performs extremely well (infact its scary!) - wet driving is not recommended without caution - but I really enjoyed my time with the car - its a shame my wallet wasnt big enough to really enjoy it should I have bought it.
Any Qs fire them through.
Cheers
I drove a 1996 RUF BTR 2 for a little while. was looking at buying the one car that resides in New Zealand (ex Singapore).
I did an inordinate amount of research on this model and decided in the end that I could afford to buy the car but I couldnt afford to "own it" if you know what I mean. The car in question was very unique (Chassis number 006 and a fully optioned ex factory BTR 2 with EKS transmission), and I like a good drive - in the end I decided my modified 993 C2 can still scare me and I dont need to trad it with "Kid gloves"!
Having said that - it seemed like an awesome car (VERY fast), and reasonably reliable (I have full service records for the car in question).
The mechanicals are well beefed up to manage the increased demands of a K27 turbo.Concerns over the wiring loom are still and issue (RUF modified the factory loom). The engine used in non varioram with the 964 manually adjusted lifters. Essentially the car is about the same as a turbo to service.
The EKS transmission has recieved mixed reviews. It works well but you need to know a service agent that has the software to address any issues should they arise.
Lastly - tyres and brakes. The discs used on the car are RUF - and are not standard turbo sizes. ZThe back tyres are 285s and the car tears through them at an alarming rate (rear wheel drive, 420 hp).
All in all these are awesome cars - and probably the top of the pile in the "tuner category". The car performs extremely well (infact its scary!) - wet driving is not recommended without caution - but I really enjoyed my time with the car - its a shame my wallet wasnt big enough to really enjoy it should I have bought it.
Any Qs fire them through.
Cheers
05-07-2002, 05:28 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Macca:
<strong>Hi,
I drove a 1996 RUF BTR 2 for a little while. was looking at buying the one car that resides in New Zealand (ex Singapore).
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Macca,
Before I purchased my '93 Turbo 3.6 (also in New Zealand ex-Singapore)I was in constant contact with a Singaporean Porsche owner about various cars I was looking at [as you know, there are many ex Singapore Porsches in NZ].
I also saw that RUF on sale at e-autos and asked him about that machine, and he said that he knew the previous owner, and had driven it once. He vouched for its history as absolutely immaculate, but added that almost everyone who drove it didn't like it. If I remember correctly, he thought the power delivery was too brutal. This man was looking for a 993RS for himself so I don't think he was a boulevard cruiser.
<strong>Hi,
I drove a 1996 RUF BTR 2 for a little while. was looking at buying the one car that resides in New Zealand (ex Singapore).
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Macca,
Before I purchased my '93 Turbo 3.6 (also in New Zealand ex-Singapore)I was in constant contact with a Singaporean Porsche owner about various cars I was looking at [as you know, there are many ex Singapore Porsches in NZ].
I also saw that RUF on sale at e-autos and asked him about that machine, and he said that he knew the previous owner, and had driven it once. He vouched for its history as absolutely immaculate, but added that almost everyone who drove it didn't like it. If I remember correctly, he thought the power delivery was too brutal. This man was looking for a 993RS for himself so I don't think he was a boulevard cruiser.
05-07-2002, 05:53 AM
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Hi John and Mark,
Hope both of you are enjoying your cars.
John,
Thanks for the non-boulevard crusier comments! Still enjoying my RS very much. Went up to Sepang in Malaysia (Malaysian GP venue) over the weekend to try the track for the first time. It is a lovely track but very technical and very slippery for some reason.
A little caveat on what I said about the BTR in question. When I first made those remarks, it was before I spent a good amount of time behind the wheel of a 911.
Now, after 10 months of using the RS as a daily driver, I am starting to come to grips with the 'there is never enough power' concept. <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
(I know! It has taken a long time)
The point is I think that the RUF BTR may not be as brutal an experience as I certainly felt it was 6 years ago. I think that with a nice suspension set up (PSS-9s for example) and the removal of the EKS system (the system can be removed and a traditional clutch pedal refitted back on the car), the BTR would make one hellva a nice car to own and use.
As you rightly pointed out, I can certainly vouch for the car's condition right up to the point it left Singapore but the fact that it has sat with the dealer for the last year needs to be taken into consideration as well.
Also, for a car that is 6 years old and having sat static for the vast majority of it's life to date, buying it would probably entail spending money and time on natural wear and tear items in the first six months of ownership.
I really wish that the car wasn't exported now and would be really tempted if it were still in Singapore and for sale. Hopefully one of you guys do eventually buy it so that when I am there on holiday, I could get reaquainted with it! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />
Hope both of you are enjoying your cars.
John,
Thanks for the non-boulevard crusier comments! Still enjoying my RS very much. Went up to Sepang in Malaysia (Malaysian GP venue) over the weekend to try the track for the first time. It is a lovely track but very technical and very slippery for some reason.
A little caveat on what I said about the BTR in question. When I first made those remarks, it was before I spent a good amount of time behind the wheel of a 911.
Now, after 10 months of using the RS as a daily driver, I am starting to come to grips with the 'there is never enough power' concept. <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
(I know! It has taken a long time)
The point is I think that the RUF BTR may not be as brutal an experience as I certainly felt it was 6 years ago. I think that with a nice suspension set up (PSS-9s for example) and the removal of the EKS system (the system can be removed and a traditional clutch pedal refitted back on the car), the BTR would make one hellva a nice car to own and use.
As you rightly pointed out, I can certainly vouch for the car's condition right up to the point it left Singapore but the fact that it has sat with the dealer for the last year needs to be taken into consideration as well.
Also, for a car that is 6 years old and having sat static for the vast majority of it's life to date, buying it would probably entail spending money and time on natural wear and tear items in the first six months of ownership.
I really wish that the car wasn't exported now and would be really tempted if it were still in Singapore and for sale. Hopefully one of you guys do eventually buy it so that when I am there on holiday, I could get reaquainted with it! <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" /> <img src="graemlins/jumper.gif" border="0" alt="[jumper]" />
05-07-2002, 06:24 AM
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I owned a 1988 CTR (yellowbird) in 1998, it had one previous owner, who had it built from the ground up from an existing 3.2 Carerra. Despite the car's low mileage some of the bills which came with the car for repairs were pretty scary and were for items which I thought should have lasted for many miles eg new turbos, gearbox rebuild etc. These made me a little nervous about putting miles on the car. I decided that the exhaust was in need of renewal and after about two weeks of trying to talk to somone at the factory I received a delivery time of 8 weeks and a price of £7000 UK. Of course I had a local specialist fix the exhaust but the experience pushed me into parting with the car as I mused on how much those custom Ruf brake discs and calipers were and how long they would take to get hold of.
The BTR may not involve such complex reworking however and if your US Ruf distributor is on the ball may be less intimidating.
BTW the CTR was a fast car, it did the 1/4 mile in 11.6secs @ 138 mph (weight 2700 lbs)
The BTR may not involve such complex reworking however and if your US Ruf distributor is on the ball may be less intimidating.
BTW the CTR was a fast car, it did the 1/4 mile in 11.6secs @ 138 mph (weight 2700 lbs)
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05-07-2002, 08:44 AM
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Roin/John,
Yes we are talking about the same car here in NZ.
Robin helped me with research and the dealer was good enough to give me copies of all the original service records as well as the $5000 NZD of bills from the local POSC the car has collected since on the yard (18 months) in NZ (starter motor, service, wiring loom, air conditioning).
The car is in excellent condition - though the interior has some marks as it is very light (parchment). Unfortunately they have sprayed one side of the car to remove some scratches and the jon is OK but not perfect. Further to that Singa cars tend to have a common problem in NZ - the rubber parts perish quickly if not used in out dryer climate!
That said - the good news is that on negotiating we got the price right down to just under $150K NZD.
The car has scared off a number of potential clients who obviously just wanted something to look different in. It really is powerful and can wheelspin in the first four gears right up to 150 kmhr!! I was the first guy who tool it for a test drive down a windy country road. I drove carefully (7/10ths) as it was dirrent to my 993 C2 with Steves chip and RSRs + powerflow) - but I was the first guy they said that has gotten out of it with a grin on my face. I was actually drinning because I hadnt got a ticket. I dont think I would last long with all that power!
There were 25 genuine 993 BTRs made in total. NZ has a few RUFs with one other 993 BTR 2 - a cab.E-autos have a BTR - 4 964 too which is sweet. Im sure this kit could fetch a packet in the UK. If anyone there wants to stitch up a deal I know the yards owner well......
I contacted RUF to do a VIN check. I must say this put me off the car a little. They never responded and discussions I had with Official Porsche agents in NZ suggested that they were very slow to respond and that the parts were VERY expensive. People have been retro fitting original parts back onto their cars over here.
There is no doubt in my mind that Robins right - a car like the 993 undriven for a few years with such low mileage will give trouble. Some are good and some are tempromental - I got the felling from all the work this car had done in its 11000km that it was the latter (I did the same mileage last year in my C2 with absolutely no bills at all).
Cheers from New Zealand - great talking to you all.
Macca the Kiwi
Yes we are talking about the same car here in NZ.
Robin helped me with research and the dealer was good enough to give me copies of all the original service records as well as the $5000 NZD of bills from the local POSC the car has collected since on the yard (18 months) in NZ (starter motor, service, wiring loom, air conditioning).
The car is in excellent condition - though the interior has some marks as it is very light (parchment). Unfortunately they have sprayed one side of the car to remove some scratches and the jon is OK but not perfect. Further to that Singa cars tend to have a common problem in NZ - the rubber parts perish quickly if not used in out dryer climate!
That said - the good news is that on negotiating we got the price right down to just under $150K NZD.
The car has scared off a number of potential clients who obviously just wanted something to look different in. It really is powerful and can wheelspin in the first four gears right up to 150 kmhr!! I was the first guy who tool it for a test drive down a windy country road. I drove carefully (7/10ths) as it was dirrent to my 993 C2 with Steves chip and RSRs + powerflow) - but I was the first guy they said that has gotten out of it with a grin on my face. I was actually drinning because I hadnt got a ticket. I dont think I would last long with all that power!
There were 25 genuine 993 BTRs made in total. NZ has a few RUFs with one other 993 BTR 2 - a cab.E-autos have a BTR - 4 964 too which is sweet. Im sure this kit could fetch a packet in the UK. If anyone there wants to stitch up a deal I know the yards owner well......
I contacted RUF to do a VIN check. I must say this put me off the car a little. They never responded and discussions I had with Official Porsche agents in NZ suggested that they were very slow to respond and that the parts were VERY expensive. People have been retro fitting original parts back onto their cars over here.
There is no doubt in my mind that Robins right - a car like the 993 undriven for a few years with such low mileage will give trouble. Some are good and some are tempromental - I got the felling from all the work this car had done in its 11000km that it was the latter (I did the same mileage last year in my C2 with absolutely no bills at all).
Cheers from New Zealand - great talking to you all.
Macca the Kiwi
05-07-2002, 02:28 PM
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I have enjoyed a Ruf Turbo R for two years. I took delivery in May ,2000 and have logged 16k miles since. I have driven it 208.5 mph and have also averaged 187.5 mph through the Nevada mountains and plains! My Ruf car actually delivers better gas mileage than my stock 993TT. Maintenance has not been a problem although I have changed all fluids & filters many times.Ruf builds an incredible car.
Ruf factory has been very supportive of my open race hobby also!
Ruf factory has been very supportive of my open race hobby also!
05-08-2002, 11:21 PM
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Leslie,
Good to hear from you again. The friend that I mentioned having a red 993RS in NZ has put a deposit down on a Cayenne, and will sell his car to finance it...I might have to take back the non boulevard cruiser comment
Macca,
Leslie and I did some calculations to work out the cost to the dealer to land the BTR in NZ, and I think we settled on about NZD 138,000 all up. With the amount it's cost them to date in repairs and adding interest cost/opportunity I'd say NZD 150,000 would now be about break even.
I'm surprised that more of these cars don't end up in the UK. New Zealand isn't exactly brimming with people willing to spend this kind of money on cars, so more often than not it ends it sitting on the yard ,or with the price being knocked down. I haven't got the full story on my Turbo 3.6, but I gather the previous owner in Auckland had a lot of trouble shifting it on. My gain until it come my time to sell I suppose.
PS: You're right to be worried about too much power. I stopped in at Powerhaus in Wellington last month and saw a black late 80s RUF that had just bitten its owner. Apparently, when the turbo came on boost, the back came round to collect an armco barrier; an expensive drive.
Good to hear from you again. The friend that I mentioned having a red 993RS in NZ has put a deposit down on a Cayenne, and will sell his car to finance it...I might have to take back the non boulevard cruiser comment
Macca,
Leslie and I did some calculations to work out the cost to the dealer to land the BTR in NZ, and I think we settled on about NZD 138,000 all up. With the amount it's cost them to date in repairs and adding interest cost/opportunity I'd say NZD 150,000 would now be about break even.
I'm surprised that more of these cars don't end up in the UK. New Zealand isn't exactly brimming with people willing to spend this kind of money on cars, so more often than not it ends it sitting on the yard ,or with the price being knocked down. I haven't got the full story on my Turbo 3.6, but I gather the previous owner in Auckland had a lot of trouble shifting it on. My gain until it come my time to sell I suppose.
PS: You're right to be worried about too much power. I stopped in at Powerhaus in Wellington last month and saw a black late 80s RUF that had just bitten its owner. Apparently, when the turbo came on boost, the back came round to collect an armco barrier; an expensive drive.
05-09-2002, 01:04 AM
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In Sept '99 with my wife I put 3200 miles on 2 rental cars doing the N and S islands of NZ. The roads were well engineered, perfectly cambered with plenty of twisties in spectacular scenery, and I encountered one pothole in the whole trip. Macca, could you tell me the origin of the word "metal" as used to describe an asphalt paved road? Sorry for the <img src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" border="0" alt="[offtopic]" />
05-09-2002, 02:29 AM
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Leslie/Terry/John,
Great talking to you all.
John - I work in Wellington at the moment (based in Auckland) and have a place next to the Wellington service shop you talk about on Tinakori Rd. The previous owner of that Ruf upgraded Porsche is my neighbour! Small world. The car was sold by Kane at Team European in Wellington - it was a Singa import and was a 3.3 from memory with a power hike to 360 bhp. The car wasnt a true RUF though - just upgraded with RUF parts.
Yes you are right on the UK thing - want to go into business? (leslie can supply the product!. I had done alot of thinking on the BTR 2 and I came up with a pretty similar figure given Singa tax rebates etc. I am in Singa in four weeks time and intend to catch up with Leslie in person (Leslie mate Ill email you!). I have done my research and I believe the BTR woul find a sizable market in the UK at 55-60K pounds F.O.B. Inc GST refund thats a fair amount of margin for an inclined party. Im sure Mr Clayton would like to cash it up. He has another 964 variant there also.
Your friend with the 993RS - what is he wanting for his car? I know of one person with one of these and he lives in central North Island - involved in wine? There is another in KeriKeri I think. Im not a guards red fan alas - but an RS!
Lastly - who did you get the turbo from and are you working or living in Vanuatu?
Terry - I glad you enjoyed your trip to NZ. Yes we are so lucky - great roads and a small population. "Metal" roads of course refer to what the britich call gravel roads. I am unsure as to where the name originated but I am looking into it so I will keep you posted.
Leslie - I will be in Singa 17th-19th June. I will be buying you a beer!
Cheers all
Great talking to you all.
John - I work in Wellington at the moment (based in Auckland) and have a place next to the Wellington service shop you talk about on Tinakori Rd. The previous owner of that Ruf upgraded Porsche is my neighbour! Small world. The car was sold by Kane at Team European in Wellington - it was a Singa import and was a 3.3 from memory with a power hike to 360 bhp. The car wasnt a true RUF though - just upgraded with RUF parts.
Yes you are right on the UK thing - want to go into business? (leslie can supply the product!. I had done alot of thinking on the BTR 2 and I came up with a pretty similar figure given Singa tax rebates etc. I am in Singa in four weeks time and intend to catch up with Leslie in person (Leslie mate Ill email you!). I have done my research and I believe the BTR woul find a sizable market in the UK at 55-60K pounds F.O.B. Inc GST refund thats a fair amount of margin for an inclined party. Im sure Mr Clayton would like to cash it up. He has another 964 variant there also.
Your friend with the 993RS - what is he wanting for his car? I know of one person with one of these and he lives in central North Island - involved in wine? There is another in KeriKeri I think. Im not a guards red fan alas - but an RS!
Lastly - who did you get the turbo from and are you working or living in Vanuatu?
Terry - I glad you enjoyed your trip to NZ. Yes we are so lucky - great roads and a small population. "Metal" roads of course refer to what the britich call gravel roads. I am unsure as to where the name originated but I am looking into it so I will keep you posted.
Leslie - I will be in Singa 17th-19th June. I will be buying you a beer!
Cheers all
05-09-2002, 08:46 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Macca:
<strong> Your friend with the 993RS - what is he wanting for his car? I know of one person with one of these and he lives in central North Island - involved in wine? There is another in KeriKeri I think. Im not a guards red fan alas - but an RS! Lastly - who did you get the turbo from and are you working or living in Vanuatu?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm sure we're talking about the same person. My friend is involved in wine, and lives in Hawkes Bay.
I'm not sure what he's looking for in terms of price. The last I heard, he'd struck a handshake deal with a Wellington Porsche fanatic to sell it to him when the Cayenne is delivered in 2003. I have no idea whether that is a 100% sealed sale or not. Seems like a long time for the buyer to wait until he gets his car, and I have no idea how you'd fix a price.
My Turbo 3.6 was purchased from Winger Subaru in Auckland [like many ex Singapore cars the official dealers wouldn't touch it]. It was imported into NZ in 1999, and had one Kiwi owner before me. I think the car was for sale for quite some time, and I happened to find out about it just when things were getting depserate. Jon Pottinger handled the purchase from start to finish, I did nothing apart from pay for it. The full story is on my running report on <a href="http://www.porsche964.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.porsche964.co.uk</a> look under reviews. The car is truly great on kiwi roads, I'm hooked on blasting out of corners on boost and overtaking truck, buses etc without raising a sweat.
As for the Vanuatu connection, I'm at the end of a one year working break that turned into 10 years. I'm coming home in November, for good. The car was my present to myself, for putting up with quite a bit over the years; it isn't all wine women and song working in a third world country, even if the pay is good and there's no income tax.
I'll probably be banned for putting a 964 on the 993 board, but I've thrown caution to the wind and put a picture of the car so you can recognise the car if you see it in your travels around Auckand or Wellington.
<strong> Your friend with the 993RS - what is he wanting for his car? I know of one person with one of these and he lives in central North Island - involved in wine? There is another in KeriKeri I think. Im not a guards red fan alas - but an RS! Lastly - who did you get the turbo from and are you working or living in Vanuatu?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm sure we're talking about the same person. My friend is involved in wine, and lives in Hawkes Bay.
I'm not sure what he's looking for in terms of price. The last I heard, he'd struck a handshake deal with a Wellington Porsche fanatic to sell it to him when the Cayenne is delivered in 2003. I have no idea whether that is a 100% sealed sale or not. Seems like a long time for the buyer to wait until he gets his car, and I have no idea how you'd fix a price.
My Turbo 3.6 was purchased from Winger Subaru in Auckland [like many ex Singapore cars the official dealers wouldn't touch it]. It was imported into NZ in 1999, and had one Kiwi owner before me. I think the car was for sale for quite some time, and I happened to find out about it just when things were getting depserate. Jon Pottinger handled the purchase from start to finish, I did nothing apart from pay for it. The full story is on my running report on <a href="http://www.porsche964.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.porsche964.co.uk</a> look under reviews. The car is truly great on kiwi roads, I'm hooked on blasting out of corners on boost and overtaking truck, buses etc without raising a sweat.
As for the Vanuatu connection, I'm at the end of a one year working break that turned into 10 years. I'm coming home in November, for good. The car was my present to myself, for putting up with quite a bit over the years; it isn't all wine women and song working in a third world country, even if the pay is good and there's no income tax.
I'll probably be banned for putting a 964 on the 993 board, but I've thrown caution to the wind and put a picture of the car so you can recognise the car if you see it in your travels around Auckand or Wellington.
05-09-2002, 09:41 AM
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New Zealand is like three degrees of seperation. The gentleman with the RS is a close friend of a friend of mine (Ken Davies - himself a Porsche owner). In in the Telecommunications field - thats where I met Ken.
That buyer is sure dedicated - I wouldnt wish to upset his deal....but if it falls through I can be reached....
Your car is supurb. I have midnight blue - but my first choice would have been silver - the blue looks better when its polished - but the silver is classic and easy to live with.
I checked out your site. The foggy tacho - did you ever get it sorted? I have the same issue and its one of the oly things I havent addressed! email me on 993@orbconsulting.co.nz if you know how to get this fixed.
Vanuatu....sounds like you have a few stories. I dont envy you - its a mental hardship you talk of - even paradise has its shortcomings. You will miss those warm days on the boat though!
Purely by chance I saw your car about a year ago in Taupo! I never forget a Porsche - Im absolutely sure it was yours! There are still two blue ones and one red one for sale hear (all 3,6s). One of the blue ones and the red have incredibly low mileage (12,000km ish). They have been on the yards for 9 months almost and the dealers want $130K ish for them. Jerry too has had a few 3.3s through his yard. I guess the imports are arriving. I think you did a good deal though as the others are a bit pricey.
Drop me a line - Im sure we could have a yarn when you are back in Aoteaoroa.
Cheers
Macca the Kiwi
New Zealand is like three degrees of seperation. The gentleman with the RS is a close friend of a friend of mine (Ken Davies - himself a Porsche owner). In in the Telecommunications field - thats where I met Ken.
That buyer is sure dedicated - I wouldnt wish to upset his deal....but if it falls through I can be reached....
Your car is supurb. I have midnight blue - but my first choice would have been silver - the blue looks better when its polished - but the silver is classic and easy to live with.
I checked out your site. The foggy tacho - did you ever get it sorted? I have the same issue and its one of the oly things I havent addressed! email me on 993@orbconsulting.co.nz if you know how to get this fixed.
Vanuatu....sounds like you have a few stories. I dont envy you - its a mental hardship you talk of - even paradise has its shortcomings. You will miss those warm days on the boat though!
Purely by chance I saw your car about a year ago in Taupo! I never forget a Porsche - Im absolutely sure it was yours! There are still two blue ones and one red one for sale hear (all 3,6s). One of the blue ones and the red have incredibly low mileage (12,000km ish). They have been on the yards for 9 months almost and the dealers want $130K ish for them. Jerry too has had a few 3.3s through his yard. I guess the imports are arriving. I think you did a good deal though as the others are a bit pricey.
Drop me a line - Im sure we could have a yarn when you are back in Aoteaoroa.
Cheers
Macca the Kiwi
05-10-2002, 06:01 AM
#15
Rennlist Member
Macca,
That makes sense, my friend was in the telecommunications field before he turned to wine.
In some areas I'd go as far as to say that New Zealand only has two degrees of separation! I'm just waiting to meet someone who knew my car's previous owner and have stories of horrendous abuse related to me.
I have yet to fix the foggy tacho. I imagine it isn't too difficult IF you can get the bezel off and back on cleanly, but that's a big if, and I don't want to chance it myself. I have no idea who the specialists are for that type of thing.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you saw my car in Taupo, about a year ago. The mileage suggests that the previous owner got around a bit, and Taupo is not far away from his home base in Auckland.
I'll add the red Turbo 3.6 to my database. Where is it for sale? I already knew about the two midnight blue cars; the '94 is absolutely immaculate, whereas the '93 is a timebomb. None of them, in my opinion, are worth NZD 130,000+; in fact the '93 sold for less than NZD 100,000 to a Dunedin buyer last September].
Low mileage doesn't float my boat in this type of car, I figure a car with normal miles is therefore enjoyable to drive and has had to be maintained regularly, whereas a low mileage car is more likely to have had minimal or irregular maintenance.
I'll keep your e-mail address for when I return to the land of the long white cloud. I'll be interested to see if the Turbo bug bites you in the meantime.
To get you salivating, I did some research into the comparison in the Turbo 3.6's sweet spot and other performance cars, it makes interesting reading. In the crucial NZ open road speed range [from 80 km/hr to 100km/hr] the results were as follows:
Turbo 3.6 = 4.66 secs
996 Carerra = 5.70 secs
BMW M3 = 6.00 secs
Subaru WRX STI = 7.50 secs
Cheers
John
That makes sense, my friend was in the telecommunications field before he turned to wine.
In some areas I'd go as far as to say that New Zealand only has two degrees of separation! I'm just waiting to meet someone who knew my car's previous owner and have stories of horrendous abuse related to me.
I have yet to fix the foggy tacho. I imagine it isn't too difficult IF you can get the bezel off and back on cleanly, but that's a big if, and I don't want to chance it myself. I have no idea who the specialists are for that type of thing.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if you saw my car in Taupo, about a year ago. The mileage suggests that the previous owner got around a bit, and Taupo is not far away from his home base in Auckland.
I'll add the red Turbo 3.6 to my database. Where is it for sale? I already knew about the two midnight blue cars; the '94 is absolutely immaculate, whereas the '93 is a timebomb. None of them, in my opinion, are worth NZD 130,000+; in fact the '93 sold for less than NZD 100,000 to a Dunedin buyer last September].
Low mileage doesn't float my boat in this type of car, I figure a car with normal miles is therefore enjoyable to drive and has had to be maintained regularly, whereas a low mileage car is more likely to have had minimal or irregular maintenance.
I'll keep your e-mail address for when I return to the land of the long white cloud. I'll be interested to see if the Turbo bug bites you in the meantime.
To get you salivating, I did some research into the comparison in the Turbo 3.6's sweet spot and other performance cars, it makes interesting reading. In the crucial NZ open road speed range [from 80 km/hr to 100km/hr] the results were as follows:
Turbo 3.6 = 4.66 secs
996 Carerra = 5.70 secs
BMW M3 = 6.00 secs
Subaru WRX STI = 7.50 secs
Cheers
John