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So, I heard back from Christine, and this is what she is confirming in order to have a 3 inch "outer rim" as they refer to it.
You can have a 3" outer rim with the following wheel sizes:
10 x 18 ET 44
10.5 x 18 ET 50
11 x 18 ET 56
The short version is I am going to go with the 10.5 ET 50. Before anyone screams "this is crazy aggressive". It is but it can be done. Coincidentally I found this thread where forum member DANTONIO ran an even more aggressive wheel set up on the rears (way more extreme, see thread) and he ended up modifying a set of Techart Championships wheels to the following specs as they came in a crazy 18x11 ET 34s.
Front: - Original 1.5" lip for 8.5" width ET 41 (36 because I had a 5mm spacer) - New 1.75" lip for 8.75" width ET 38 (no spacer will be used - net effect is that the face of the wheel sinks in about 5mm, lip should be at the same distance from hub) - 225/40 tire
Rear: - Original 3.0" lip for 11" width ET 34.5 - New 2.25" lip for 10.25" width ET 44 (rear wheel goes in by 19mm) - 265/35 tire
When you take these specs.. the rears at 10.25 ET 44... the 10.5 ET 50 yields 9 mm more inboard and 3 mm less poke respectively. My car is also not as low and I do not plan on it dropping it more. My main other difference will be a 295/30 versus a 265/35 but the 295s have a smaller overall diameter, radius and sidewall height. I feel the 3 inch lip will look awesome on a NB.
Here are two pics from his 993. Credit to him for running such an aggressive fitment on a NB 993 EVEN after he modified the wheels to a higher offset. BTW same wheels forum member Rich Pugh ran with an ET60.
I think this is the absolute most perfect offset that truly accentuates the NB 911 profile. I will be reaching out to Darin at FD to place the order.
Excited to see the finished product.
I've also read the numerous threads on NB fitment here. I always give kudos to those that push past the norm.
I've seen another NB owner on here (jj1) that's run a super aggressive fitment with E88s. Front 18 x 9.5 et32 245/35 and rear 18 x 11 et51 315/30 with inner fender work. Crazy he was able to fit that underneath the fenders. Impressive nonetheless.
I like a super flush fitment myself and if I had to do my Tramonts all over again, I would try the +54 18 x 10 rears and +34 18 x 8.5" fronts. But it's not much different than what I have now (+58 and +42 rear and front, respectively).and I'm super happy with the overall look and feel of the wheel/tire combo.
The one con with bigger wheels and tires is the added unsprung weight which at some point is a balance between aesthetics and performance.
So, I heard back from Christine, and this is what she is confirming in order to have a 3 inch "outer rim" as they refer to it.
You can have a 3" outer rim with the following wheel sizes:
10 x 18 ET 44
10.5 x 18 ET 50
11 x 18 ET 56
The short version is I am going to go with the 10.5 ET 50. Before anyone screams "this is crazy aggressive". It is but it can be done. Coincidentally I found this thread where forum member DANTONIO ran an even more aggressive wheel set up on the rears (way more extreme, see thread) and he ended up modifying a set of Techart Championships wheels to the following specs as they came in a crazy 18x11 ET 34s.
Front: - Original 1.5" lip for 8.5" width ET 41 (36 because I had a 5mm spacer) - New 1.75" lip for 8.75" width ET 38 (no spacer will be used - net effect is that the face of the wheel sinks in about 5mm, lip should be at the same distance from hub) - 225/40 tire
Rear: - Original 3.0" lip for 11" width ET 34.5 - New 2.25" lip for 10.25" width ET 44 (rear wheel goes in by 19mm) - 265/35 tire
When you take these specs.. the rears at 10.25 ET 44... the 10.5 ET 50 yields 9 mm more inboard and 3 mm less poke respectively. My car is also not as low and I do not plan on it dropping it more. My main other difference will be a 295/30 versus a 265/35 but the 295s have a smaller overall diameter, radius and sidewall height. I feel the 3 inch lip will look awesome on a NB.
Here are two pics from his 993. Credit to him for running such an aggressive fitment on a NB 993 EVEN after he modified the wheels to a higher offset. BTW same wheels forum member Rich Pugh ran with an ET60.
I think this is the absolute most perfect offset that truly accentuates the NB 911 profile. I will be reaching out to Darin at FD to place the order.
Bravo to you for going over the boundaries.
Hope you can get away without running too much negative camber.
Definitely looking forward to your finished wheels and if I like what I see, might send my rears back to be rebuilt with a 3'' outer barrel.
3point2 makes a good point about unsprung weight. They look great, but they are heavy !
Put my old hollow spoke twists back on, as the car was going to the shop for some work and i did not want them unintentionally scuffing my 3 piece.
On my way to the shop, the car was so alive and responsive with the factory wheels.
Bravo to you for going over the boundaries.
Hope you can get away without running too much negative camber.
Definitely looking forward to your finished wheels and if I like what I see, might send my rears back to be rebuilt with a 3'' outer barrel.
3point2 makes a good point about unsprung weight. They look great, but they are heavy !
Put my old hollow spoke twists back on, as the car was going to the shop for some work and i did not want them unintentionally scuffing my 3 piece.
On my way to the shop, the car was so alive and responsive with the factory wheels.
Can't argue about added unsprung weight.. my car is strictly a street vehicle so not important to me.
I placed the order on the wheels with Darin at FD. I will post once I get them in a few months.
Bravo to you for going over the boundaries.
Hope you can get away without running too much negative camber.
Definitely looking forward to your finished wheels and if I like what I see, might send my rears back to be rebuilt with a 3'' outer barrel.
3point2 makes a good point about unsprung weight. They look great, but they are heavy !
Put my old hollow spoke twists back on, as the car was going to the shop for some work and i did not want them unintentionally scuffing my 3 piece.
On my way to the shop, the car was so alive and responsive with the factory wheels.
there can be a big difference in tire weight too. For example - my Continental 285/30/18 is 23Ibs and the Sumitomo in the same size is 30Ibs according to Tire Rack.
there can be a big difference in tire weight too. For example - my Continental 285/30/18 is 23Ibs and the Sumitomo in the same size is 30Ibs according to Tire Rack.
Yikes! Does anyone find these attractive? I don't.
So Tramont responded and the rear offset is ET 40. Which is odd because someone else has the same offset and the lips do not appear to be that big. The ones on this gray WB look bigger than 3" inch on the rears.
Here is my C4S with 18x8.5 et46 front and 18x11 et40 rear. The tires are Sumitomo HTR Z III. 235/40/18 Front and 295/30/18 Rear. Not sure why but the picture from Tramont looks a little skewed to me, both the front and rear lips look deeper...
Here is my C4S with 18x8.5 et46 front and 18x11 et40 rear. The tires are Sumitomo HTR Z III. 235/40/18 Front and 295/30/18 Rear. Not sure why but the picture from Tramont looks a little skewed to me, both the front and rear lips look deeper...
Andy
thank you for posting yours again Andy. Yes totally different. I’m going to ask them to verify lip sizes.
the rear ride height looks off to me, compared to the front. I have 18x11” ET 38 Tramont’s on the rear of my C4S. The step in the outer barrel make them look larger than they are. I can measure that outer lip tomorrow, and report.
Tramont only make the Cup2 in a 17(?) and 18”, unless something changed.
Been a long time(2013) since I got these wheels, but 18x8.5 et 42 maybe at the front.
Originally Posted by Astro_Train
Tramont just posted this pic of a widebody 993.
They said 18x8.5 and 11 rears. No offsets listed though. Those outer rims look to be ridiculous.
03-15-2023, 02:09 PM
