Replace with Lucid Grand Touring
#31
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If you're road tripping then study and be sure you're comfortable with doing that in a non-Tesla. Plenty of people do, and with no concerns, but just be aware charging stations aren't (yet) on every 2nd street corner and often they aren't maintained as well as they should be.
#32
I'm lucky I suppose, in that I have my C2S and I have a BMW i4 as my daily. No leasing as I don't have a business to write it off against, but if I did, that's probably the route I'd take for an EV given the credits available at the moment. FWIW, I really like this BMW i4. I've driven Tesla's extensively and we had a KIA EV6 for a bit over a year. I'd not go back to either of them on a purchase or a lease. The KIA is very well engineered and technically it performed flawlessly for us. But while KIA spent a lot of money (it shows) on the EV system and its Drive Train, the interior is clearly where they saved money. So what you're always looking at looks like the interior of the absolutely cheapest car, pick your brand, that ever was. The Lucid intrigues me, but while most of the reviews are extremely positive, there have been a few that seem like, when there's a problem, YOU now have a problem and getting resolution may be problematical.
My wife drives a BMW X5 Hybrid. It legitimately goes 30+ miles on a charge. Since almost all of her driving is less than 30 miles in a day, it's very rare that it needs to see a gas station. It recharges at home on a Level 2 Charger after midnight and it's good to go every morning. It's very comfortable and it's been 100% reliable. The few times we've needed to go on a long trip, it's the car we take. If we had to survive, on just one of our cars, that'd probably be what we'd keep.
My wife drives a BMW X5 Hybrid. It legitimately goes 30+ miles on a charge. Since almost all of her driving is less than 30 miles in a day, it's very rare that it needs to see a gas station. It recharges at home on a Level 2 Charger after midnight and it's good to go every morning. It's very comfortable and it's been 100% reliable. The few times we've needed to go on a long trip, it's the car we take. If we had to survive, on just one of our cars, that'd probably be what we'd keep.
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#33
Currently have had my C2 for a few years now and thinking of making the switch to EV. Drove the Lucid, Taycan, and Tesla Model S. Currently leaning towards the Lucid or the Model S Plaid and wanted to get everyone’s thoughts. Is this the right choice or should I hold onto the 992 C2?
Also, NEVER listen to people that haven't actually owned an EV.
Never listen to anyone that hasn't owned the exact car you are looking at.
Bunch or haters and know it all's out there. Especially on this group lately.
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#34
Taycan if you don't care about range and will never road trip it. Lucid if range matters but road trips will be rare. If road trips are a regular thing, then Tesla is the only brand that's tolerable at the moment.
#35
Buy an inexpensive used EV and keep the 911. You'll have a great daily driver and you can keep the 911 for special outings and fun.
People need to stop trying to have one car do it all. It's more fun to have choices.
There's not nearly as much differentiation between EV experiences as there are with gas powered cars. The cheap one rides just as smoothly and luxuriously as an expensive one.
I would not, under any circumstance, buy a Tesla, because they are smoking hot garbage. With the supercharger network opened up in the US, there's no reason to put up with automatic wipers that don't work, automatic high beams that don't work, and cheap *** interior bits. Tesla's are very poorly built with indefensible quality issues. There are much better options out there.
I also would not consider a Lucid. I've encountered so many Lucid owners with charging frustrations. I have witnessed Lucid cars just not being able to charge at stations working for other cars. The real world charging speed performance is nowhere near the "ringers" that they give the press. There's some brilliant engineering in the cars, but they're clearly newbies when it comes to manufacturing at scale. Pass.
I've owned a Taycan and loved it, but I actually prefer my F150 Lightning over the Taycan. I know, it sounds insane until you actually live with these things. A pickup truck and a 911 are a nice combination.
There is one caveat with EV ownership and it's not the roadtripping stuff (btw, you most certainly can roadtrip in an EV and in 2024, it's not even novel). The caveat? An EV only makes sense if you are able to charge at home. If you can't have a Level 2 charger at home, you lose much of your running cost advantages and it suddenly becomes a whole lot less convenient.
People need to stop trying to have one car do it all. It's more fun to have choices.
There's not nearly as much differentiation between EV experiences as there are with gas powered cars. The cheap one rides just as smoothly and luxuriously as an expensive one.
I would not, under any circumstance, buy a Tesla, because they are smoking hot garbage. With the supercharger network opened up in the US, there's no reason to put up with automatic wipers that don't work, automatic high beams that don't work, and cheap *** interior bits. Tesla's are very poorly built with indefensible quality issues. There are much better options out there.
I also would not consider a Lucid. I've encountered so many Lucid owners with charging frustrations. I have witnessed Lucid cars just not being able to charge at stations working for other cars. The real world charging speed performance is nowhere near the "ringers" that they give the press. There's some brilliant engineering in the cars, but they're clearly newbies when it comes to manufacturing at scale. Pass.
I've owned a Taycan and loved it, but I actually prefer my F150 Lightning over the Taycan. I know, it sounds insane until you actually live with these things. A pickup truck and a 911 are a nice combination.
There is one caveat with EV ownership and it's not the roadtripping stuff (btw, you most certainly can roadtrip in an EV and in 2024, it's not even novel). The caveat? An EV only makes sense if you are able to charge at home. If you can't have a Level 2 charger at home, you lose much of your running cost advantages and it suddenly becomes a whole lot less convenient.
#36
My 2 cents worth: between the 3 cars:-
- I would buy the Tesla,
-lease the Lucid. They have great lease rates, the last time I checked it was $650/month for 24 months
-The best driving car of the three is the Taycan. They did a really nice job
If this is your only car stick with the C2. If it is second daily go with the electric. I love my Model Y for a daily. All I need is a good radio, autopilot, and moderate comfort since I am stuck going 30-40mph in Atlanta traffic. Weekends are for pure driving fun- RS, 458 or motorcycle
- I would buy the Tesla,
-lease the Lucid. They have great lease rates, the last time I checked it was $650/month for 24 months
-The best driving car of the three is the Taycan. They did a really nice job
If this is your only car stick with the C2. If it is second daily go with the electric. I love my Model Y for a daily. All I need is a good radio, autopilot, and moderate comfort since I am stuck going 30-40mph in Atlanta traffic. Weekends are for pure driving fun- RS, 458 or motorcycle
#37
My 2 cents worth: between the 3 cars:-
- I would buy the Tesla,
-lease the Lucid. They have great lease rates, the last time I checked it was $650/month for 24 months
-The best driving car of the three is the Taycan. They did a really nice job
If this is your only car stick with the C2. If it is second daily go with the electric. I love my Model Y for a daily. All I need is a good radio, autopilot, and moderate comfort since I am stuck going 30-40mph in Atlanta traffic. Weekends are for pure driving fun- RS, 458 or motorcycle
- I would buy the Tesla,
-lease the Lucid. They have great lease rates, the last time I checked it was $650/month for 24 months
-The best driving car of the three is the Taycan. They did a really nice job
If this is your only car stick with the C2. If it is second daily go with the electric. I love my Model Y for a daily. All I need is a good radio, autopilot, and moderate comfort since I am stuck going 30-40mph in Atlanta traffic. Weekends are for pure driving fun- RS, 458 or motorcycle
#38
The comment about replacing a 2-door coupe with a 4-door sedan is insightful. Visualize yourself in a couple of years: Is a sedan what you want? Resale is horrible on EVs, but if you lease, that's less of an issue (although it drives down the residual value). If I had to choose, I'd pick the Taycan. Tesla fit and finish are all over the place, and I have no direct experience with the Lucid outside of MKBHD's recommendation of the Sapphire.
I can understand wanting a change from what you've been driving; I do that all the time.
I can understand wanting a change from what you've been driving; I do that all the time.
#40
I was an actual owner of two Plaids. I bought my first in 21 brand new. I sold it for a 992 C2S that had 2k miles on it. A year later I traded the C2S in for another Plaid. I sold THAT Plaid for a 2nd Gen Audi R8. I ended up selling the R8 after almost two years of ownership for my current 992 C4S. The lesson I learned through all this is to keep the C2 and buy the EV as a daily. You probably won't be happy with either as an only car. You need both. I was unhappy with just an EV and no sports car. I want to buy another Plaid and trade my C4S in for a 720S in a couple years.
Also, NEVER listen to people that haven't actually owned an EV.
Never listen to anyone that hasn't owned the exact car you are looking at.
Bunch or haters and know it all's out there. Especially on this group lately.
Also, NEVER listen to people that haven't actually owned an EV.
Never listen to anyone that hasn't owned the exact car you are looking at.
Bunch or haters and know it all's out there. Especially on this group lately.
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#45
That is a feature not a bug of Porsche ownership. So many abilities to customize, so many nuances within each model, that you are guaranteed never to be quite satisfied with what you have, and always thinking about the hunt for the next one.