After 2 laps with .2 GTS which performance do you expect?
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Read that after the NRing lap the battery was almost empty,
what happen to lag and performance when 0 battery left?
shall GTS owners seek a traffic jam to recharge it ? For how long?
what happen to lag and performance when 0 battery left?
shall GTS owners seek a traffic jam to recharge it ? For how long?
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So after two laps, the .1 will actually be faster because of all the retarded timing in the .2?
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Moreover, because there is no waste gate on the 3.6, instead, at high rpm, the motor turns into a generator and produces up to 15 horsepower. That draws enough power from the turbine to prevent the turbo from exceeding its 125,000-rpm redline. The electricity produced goes to the electric motor in the PDK and supplements total power from about 5700 rpm on up at full throttle.
So I believe although it will not produce 541 HP with a depleted battery, it will be able to push close to 495hp and still produce faster times than the 992.1 GTS.
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The 3.6 engine alone produces 478 without the Hybrid System. That is 5 Hp more that the previous 3.0 with Twin Turbos.
Moreover, because there is no waste gate on the 3.6, instead, at high rpm, the motor turns into a generator and produces up to 15 horsepower. That draws enough power from the turbine to prevent the turbo from exceeding its 125,000-rpm redline. The electricity produced goes to the electric motor in the PDK and supplements total power from about 5700 rpm on up at full throttle.
So I believe although it will not produce 541 HP with a depleted battery, it will be able to push close to 495hp and still produce faster times than the 992.1 GTS.
Moreover, because there is no waste gate on the 3.6, instead, at high rpm, the motor turns into a generator and produces up to 15 horsepower. That draws enough power from the turbine to prevent the turbo from exceeding its 125,000-rpm redline. The electricity produced goes to the electric motor in the PDK and supplements total power from about 5700 rpm on up at full throttle.
So I believe although it will not produce 541 HP with a depleted battery, it will be able to push close to 495hp and still produce faster times than the 992.1 GTS.
Accept the reality that it's not perfect and that you tube praise is by monetized journalists who want clicks and likes .
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I don’t think the new GTS will be the base for the new race car (a new GT3 or GT2 will be). So for the rest of us surviving a full, long lap on the ring is more fully throttle driving than 99.9% of GTS buyers will ever do. JMHO
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What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
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You're never going to encounter this issue on the street.
99.999% won't encounter this issue on the 'ring, because almost no one on RL can maintain the pace necessary to set these ring times.
You won't encounter this issue during a track day on any track.
It's hard to get even close to these published ring times playing a video game, with mortality and cost of f'ing things up off of the table. These 'ring times are super human efforts.
99.999% won't encounter this issue on the 'ring, because almost no one on RL can maintain the pace necessary to set these ring times.
You won't encounter this issue during a track day on any track.
It's hard to get even close to these published ring times playing a video game, with mortality and cost of f'ing things up off of the table. These 'ring times are super human efforts.
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Actually no.
What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
A car that run on the Ring full throttle has a lot of gas exhaust to power the battery but nevertless after a lap the battery is depleted, something missing here
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Actually no.
What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
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Actually no.
What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
What @melhechi stated is correct. On the 992.1, once target boost is achieved, the excess exhaust energy is dumped to the atmosphere by the wastegates. The e-turbo on the 992.2 recuperates that extra energy and sends it directly to the PDK e-motor bypassing the battery. Up to 15hp of it. While on an empty battery you might not get the full rated power, you still get more than ICE alone.
You're never going to encounter this issue on the street.
99.999% won't encounter this issue on the 'ring, because almost no one on RL can maintain the pace necessary to set these ring times.
You won't encounter this issue during a track day on any track.
It's hard to get even close to these published ring times playing a video game, with mortality and cost of f'ing things up off of the table. These 'ring times are super human efforts.
99.999% won't encounter this issue on the 'ring, because almost no one on RL can maintain the pace necessary to set these ring times.
You won't encounter this issue during a track day on any track.
It's hard to get even close to these published ring times playing a video game, with mortality and cost of f'ing things up off of the table. These 'ring times are super human efforts.
Do you eat all the food in your plate . or spend every cent you have , or wear every item of clothes or do anything 100 percent all of the time ? That does not mean one ought to settle for less (especially at 200K ) . Do you not think Porsche is throwing the kitchen sink at trying to get the most of of battery life ? Look at EV's .. those funny looking shapes are not for styling as much as they are for battery life . Use the AC and its less battery . Gain 5 pounds and it's less too . It's too cold or hot and its less . Those wheels and slats are for less drag . Dont you see they have to sell us a @h^t sandwich and fanboyism is gobbling it up ?
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It could just be that long straight at the end at WOT is used up, and then it recharges after that.
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A depleted battery is not a car capable of repeating data -period . If all it takes if 15 min of hard driving can you imagine 8 hours . I dont have time but do have a friend who lives in NYC and makes the time . He bought the cars to go on these long (sometimes cross country ) drives on roads with no cars , different altitudes , and climate for HOURS , Both his Macan GTS and 992 GTS are just as set when he shuts them off after a full day , Granted in a metropolitan setting none off this matters but if thats the case is a 911 even needed ?
Moreover, the car continues to use regenerative braking to partially recharge the battery during driving and This helps to regain some electric power over time, especially during deceleration. In addition to that, because there is no wastegate, at high rpm, the motor turns into a generator and the electricity produced goes to the electric motor in the PDK and supplements power.
In normal driving modes, the system aims to maintain a certain level of battery charge (around 70%), ensuring that the battery is rarely completely depleted under regular driving conditions. However, in high-performance modes like Sport Plus, the system may use the battery more quickly to maximize performance, but this is balanced with regenerative braking and other recharging mechanisms.
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