yrralis1

Didnt think that would launch the GTS out of typical sequence and knew that some would be hybrid but not all . Has me wondering whats next ... I doubted a GTS .. I still, doubt a Gt3 .
What it is showing is how deep in the crap Porsche has become . The VW diesel mess hurt things .
The EU fines are massive .

In USA they did push back , Both Ford and GM cut EV production .
https://electrek.co/2024/05/13/ford-...100000-per-ev/

A bunch of states wanted to join California at banning ICE by 2035 and Virginia just backed out .
https://www.13newsnow.com/article/ne...d-8e09b003f9f2

Even Japan is cutting it back ,
https://www.topspeed.com/why-toyota-...tric-cars/?h22

yrralis1

Of course they wil win and it wil be with a hybrid . Look at how many here are sold and what better place too sell it than F1 . This is not an accident.. It's marketing and big money .

We never got to see the cars they could have built . We got snippets of it in the Gt cars .
The VW scandal led to survival mode . EU legislation and fines made it impossible for them to break .

They have picked their course and the herd follows .

We al, saw it start when they went "all turbo" . WE saw it more with just an EV taycan . no biggie .. just one car .

Now its a cancer and the only ones who can stop is not their engineers ... its their government leaders . Doesn't that speak to you ?

How can they lose when people are continuing to pay ADMs ,and believe it could not have been better ?

When the hybrid arrives and gone is the beautiful wail of the flat 6 (without all the particle filters and electric zapper_) it night dawn on some that something just isnt right . Even fast does not mean it's fun.

PSPorsche

Unless you never break and drive full throttle all the time, this will not happen to you.

DrKarlB

Florida and govt conspiracy theories....
... throw in a few "they are taking our freedoms "...

50% of Americans think the election was stolen ... WTF
Fox news selling outrage to the masses....

Its sad over here now

Jeff Whitten

The comparison is around the hybrid technology with small battery which is similar. Specifically in this case based on commentary around single run performance, battery regen, and usage of the technology and over for track runs. If you think F1 is a level playing field, you haven’t been watching.

DrKarlB

Exactly, (well its BRAKE... not BREAK... so almost exactly)
It will still charge even then as the turbo excess boost will still charge the battery

Jeff Whitten

My example was to show a comparable tech and how it’s used in racing. Nothing more. I’m not weighing in on hybrid good or bad. The rest of your comments are pretty wild. 😂

yrralis1

My numbers on EV cars and climate are accurate and is comprised of both parties who voted (survey done by AP and politico )
https://subscriber.politicopro.com/e...f-f1fdf66d0000

Quote from above survey -
8. Americans are not very willing to pay for climate policy
While the majority of Americans support climate policies, including a carbon tax on companies,
when it comes to paying for these policies in the form of a monthly fee on their energy use they
are much less supportive. In fact, more than half of Americans are unwilling to pay any amount
of money to combat climate change. Forty-five percent are willing to pay $1—more than last
year, but down from prior years of the poll. That said, a consistent minority is willing to pay a
significant amount (even $100) to combat climate change.

Tobeit

well, these discussions go downhill fast - degraded to rambling about conspiracies of false global warming and such. Uff. I am out.

yrralis1

Early in the thread I showed both how and why it was introduced into racing and what limitations were designated for hybrid vs non hybrid cars . It was clear that hybrid development was encouraged and supported while ICE was restricted , Handicap one and bolster the other and this is the result 10 years later . I showed this and gave the sources .

Vicbastige

So am I to understand that with battery depletion and energy recapture that the electric boost will pulse in and out based on battery level? I would think that would add a wrinkle to manage under spirited driving as the feel/performance of the vehicle would constantly change based on charge/dischared status. Once depleted underway, does it wait for a full re-charge to reactivate? How long does it take to recharge when driving hard?

yrralis1

The auto industry is no stranger to emissions regulations but this is no conspiracy . This is as mainstream as it gets The end goal was and still, is EV by the EU .https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwin...-hard-choices/

It has now hit the 911 hard . Now everyone can run out , pay ADMS, and cheer on RL or they can figure out which new models are less impacted and hope that new leadership swipes the pen and see where the cars go next .

shrimp money

It was a stolen election.

The government did lie to the people.

Please tell me, what is a woman?

DrKarlB

yrralis1

This is a mass produced car with has to carry a warranty for 4 yrs and 50K . The constant reference to F1 shows how well Porsche marketing played it . F1 car and 992 GTS cars for public purchase are worlds apart .