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A Carrera T to a GT3 isn't exactly a "regression."
It is a regression in terms of torque and grip. It could also be a regression in terms of interior/exterior, but that is more subjective and secondary.
However, Impossible to know without OP clarifying what he doesn't like about the T and what he's hoping to fix with the GT3.
I own both. I appreciate them both for very different reasons. Though it seems unfathomable to some, a Carrera is sometimes better than a GT.
edit: I wrote this big long thing but deleted. Pointless to debate it - a Carrera T and a GT3 could not be more different in philosophy and in the way they drive. Interior design and all the ancillary things shouldn’t be making the decison.
If driving is the priority, then GT3. Doesn’t matter which generation - I’d honestly take a 996 GT3.
edit: I wrote this big long thing but deleted. Pointless to debate it - a Carrera T and a GT3 could not be more different in philosophy and in the way they drive. Interior design and all the ancillary things shouldn’t be making the decision.
If driving is the priority, then GT3. Doesn’t matter which generation - I’d honestly take a 996 GT3.
I think that’s a fairly myopic approach to automobiles. The drive is important, yes, but to suggest that other aspects of a car don’t matter and should be less priority is flawed. If that’s the case, there are better driving cars that look worse/offer less than a GT3 if the drive is all we should be concerned with.
I think that’s a fairly myopic approach to automobiles. The drive is important, yes, but to suggest that other aspects of a car don’t matter and should be less priority is flawed. If that’s the case, there are better driving cars that look worse/offer less than a GT3 if the drive is all we should be concerned with.
Not really. Porsche make great interiors and, IMO, the 992 interior is not a reason to pick that car over any other generation of 911, IMO. Sure it factors into the experience of the car, but I wouldn't buy a T over a GT3 because I like the interior better. Not, at least, for what I want out of it. A car that can work as a daily driver in all weather? That's where the Carrera starts making a lot of sense.
Regardless, I've posted before - I prefer the 991 interior. It's better built and more enveloping, which I like. I don't really care about PCM, sound, gadgets. So all the techy luxuries in the 992 are irrelevant to me. That's just my preference.
There are not many sports cars with a 500hp, 9k RPM and a manual transmission along with a robust dealer network and very good reliability, fit and finish (ie all the Porsche things). Obviously, there are faster, higher performance cars; more luxurious and exotic cars. But as far as the whole package - Porsche has a niche.
I own a 992 T and had two 991.2 GT3's (like many, I skipped the 991.1 GT3 - no interest in PDK). I would only consider giving up my 992 T for a 991.2 GT3 if my plan were heavy tracking. As a road car, the 992 T is superior.
Appreciate all the feedback. To be frank, I love the t and have no complaints. Lately I been getting this itch for a 991.1 gt3/4 to track and do canyon runs. My first thought was to keep the t and add a stable mate. However I’m starting to question if it makes sense and maybe I should trade the t for the gt3. I’ve never driven a gt3 and none near me to go demo. Those of you that own or have owned is the gt3 going to feel like an upgrade, or significantly more exciting driving? Or is the T that great it may feel like I’ve gone backwards? Hopefully this gives a bit more clarity
Last edited by Honinspire02; 02-11-2024 at 04:04 PM.
Appreciate all the feedback. To be frank, I love the t and have no complaints. Lately I been getting this itch for a gt3/4 to track and do canyon runs. My first thought was to keep the t and add a stable mate. However I’m starting to question if it makes sense and maybe I should trade the t for the gt3. I’ve never driven a gt3 and none near me to go demo. Those of you that own or have owned is the gt3 going to feel like an upgrade, or significantly more exciting driving? Or is the T that great it may feel like I’ve gone backwards? Hopefully this gives a bit more clarity
No comparison between a T and a GT3/4. Daily v. track monsters. Just depends on what you want and it’s intended use. If you are buying new, however, you may have to trade in the T to get the GT3/4 allocation.
I own a 992 T and had two 991.2 GT3's (like many, I skipped the 991.1 GT3 - no interest in PDK). I would only consider giving up my 992 T for a 991.2 GT3 if my plan were heavy tracking. As a road car, the 992 T is superior.
I have owned both and you just nailed it with the correct answer......
Maybe get both and keep them for a year and decide which key you reach for more often. There's no right answer. I kind of went the other way, I went from a 718 GT4 to a 992 Carrera. I found the 992 had me driving it more often.
I think you should keep the 992 T until you can figure out if there will be a 992.2 Carrera T with a manual. This could positively impact the values of the 992.1 T’s if there are no 992.2 T manuals.
I’d still keep the T though, and wait for the prices to continue to stabilize for the 991.2 GT3s. The prices are definitely softening and coming back to earth.
Appreciate all the feedback. To be frank, I love the t and have no complaints. Lately I been getting this itch for a gt3/4 to track and do canyon runs. My first thought was to keep the t and add a stable mate. However I’m starting to question if it makes sense and maybe I should trade the t for the gt3. I’ve never driven a gt3 and none near me to go demo. Those of you that own or have owned is the gt3 going to feel like an upgrade, or significantly more exciting driving? Or is the T that great it may feel like I’ve gone backwards? Hopefully this gives a bit more clarity
It’s hard to explain when you’ve never driven a GT3 to explain the difference.
I’ll put it this way - the 992 c2s and TTS that I owned were great cars. I am not knocking them. But I found after 6 months that they just weren’t getting driven. I had to drive them out of guilt. I have other cars and neither one really motivated me as much to drive them.
I’ve had the Touring for over a year now and I’m driving it more now than I did when I bought it. I just love driving the thing. The engine is incredibly responsive, the gear shift is near perfect, the noise is metallic and angry and motorsport like when running quickly through the gears. Manually shifting at 9k really takes up all your senses, it’s a lot more intense than even launch control on turbo S. The car moves and reacts sharper and the suspension is designed to be more tunable. I have tweaked the alignment and suspension a bit on mine using the stock hardware and it feels really dialed in. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned a few.
That’s not to say your T is anything but great, but the motor in the GT3 hits different than a non motorsport turbo and the feel and the character of the car is just more aggressive. I just don’t see how the GT3 could possibly be anything but an upgrade. Of course, that’s my bias and my personal experience with these platforms.
Other former owners may have different opinions and that’s ok. We all come at this with our own biases and expectations. I tend to like meaner, nastier cars and frankly the GT3 feels luxurious in comparison, so concerns about street driving are pretty minimal for me.
The winged GT3 are softening in price, ironically the Tourings are going up in value. Either way they’re a pretty safe bet financially. You only live once -it’s worth a shot if you’re curious because once you get that itch it’s hard not to scratch it.
I took delivery of an ordered 2024 TTS a few months ago. Took a test drive in a manual GT3 the dealer had and had the best time. Fast forward to last week, I traded my TTS and bought a slightly used GT3T. For my use which will be weekend spirited drives the GT3 will better suite my needs for sure. Before the TTS I had a 2022 GTS that was PDK. Like other have said depends on you use. For a special sunny day car the TTS wasn't doing it, if it was a daily driver the TTS all the way. Plus, the GT3 just looks special as well.
I took delivery of an ordered 2024 TTS a few months ago. Took a test drive in a manual GT3 the dealer had and had the best time. Fast forward to last week, I traded my TTS and bought a slightly used GT3T. For my use which will be weekend spirited drives the GT3 will better suite my needs for sure. Before the TTS I had a 2022 GTS that was PDK. Like other have said depends on you use. For a special sunny day car the TTS wasn't doing it, if it was a daily driver the TTS all the way. Plus, the GT3 just looks special as well.
Well I don’t blame you. You switched to a 992 GT3. I would make the same move.
02-11-2024, 02:51 AM
