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As if the suspension setup in the 992.1 GTS wasn’t stiff enough. You can’t trust any of the car reviewers, they’ve all sold out. I’m calling a bust on this 992.2 GTS, it’s gone too extreme. Also says a lot that it’s being pushed out the door first…
I’m sure it will look amazing tho. Just too bad it most likely won’t be enjoyable to drive.
What?!? That’s pretty wild. They are going to use an electric motor to power the turbo. I guess that makes sense, it will help eliminate turbo lag. Would this be in addition an electric front wheel motor? It does state that it runs on a 400V high voltage platform.
What?!? That’s pretty wild. They are going to use an electric motor to power the turbo. I guess that makes sense, it will help eliminate turbo lag. Would this be in addition an electric front wheel motor? It does state that it runs on a 400V high voltage platform.
Isn't that exact the same approach AMG took with the new C63s (they made a big announcement at the time and demo how it works) - makes turbo lag almost a thing of the past and adds power.
Isn't that exact the same approach AMG took with the new C63s (they made a big announcement at the time and demo how it works) - makes turbo lag almost a thing of the past and adds power.
If this is the case, and it is reliable and works well, I kind of hope they would bring this kind of tech to the lower models like the S. If it is just an eturbo I wouldn’t see why they couldn’t keep a manual. Although putting in a 400V system for just a turbocharger seems like a bit of a waste (meaning they would probably have an electric motor in addition). I’ll try to find out what Mercedes did.
If this is the case, and it is reliable and works well, I kind of hope they would bring this kind of tech to the lower models like the S. If it is just an eturbo I wouldn’t see why they couldn’t keep a manual. Although putting in a 400V system for just a turbocharger seems like a bit of a waste (meaning they would probably have an electric motor in addition). I’ll try to find out what Mercedes did.
MB actually also has both - https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-amg/c63
2.0l 4-cylinder with 201hp electric motor + electric powered turbocharger to remove/reduce lag - 671hp, 4.8kwh battery and a whooping 2.9s in 0-60.
If this is the case, and it is reliable and works well, I kind of hope they would bring this kind of tech to the lower models like the S. If it is just an eturbo I wouldn’t see why they couldn’t keep a manual. Although putting in a 400V system for just a turbocharger seems like a bit of a waste (meaning they would probably have an electric motor in addition). I’ll try to find out what Mercedes did.
I agree. No reason to get rid of the manual. The only reason I can think of would be emission requirements,
What?!? That’s pretty wild. They are going to use an electric motor to power the turbo. I guess that makes sense, it will help eliminate turbo lag. Would this be in addition an electric front wheel motor? It does state that it runs on a 400V high voltage platform.
Exactly. And Porsche has rightfully waited a long time to get this right. The BW eturbo is state of the art. Part of the delay was also from Varta since the V4drive cells were finally ready end of 2023.
Regarding the 400V I hope this is true for both the S and the GTS. The Borg Warner eTurbo can run on 48V also, 400V as stated but also on 800V in racing applications.
You are right that it is wild and one of the most important thing that Porsche - and AMG using similar tech from Garret - is trying to achieve by using this is to eliminate Turbo lag and the engine to behave as similar as possible as a NA engine.
A few more info from the website and datasheet of the BorgWarner eturbo that might help people understand how it works:
The eTurbo can either enhance performance by adding torque to the turbine shaft or generate electrical energy from the exhaust gas flow
48V: 3 kW ➔ 17 kW peak 400/800V: 6 kW ➔ 34 kW peak
Reduced turbo lag: better low rpm engine torque, faster time-to-torque
Smaller engine or lower speed engine can be used and have exceptional levels of torque and response
Fuel economy improves due to downsized or lower speed engine Wasted exhaust energy is converted to electrical energy
Recuperation reduces T4 temperature for less costly after treatment construction
Improve performance for new combustion concepts (lambda1 no scavenging) due to electrical assist over complete engine speed range
Reduction of battery size due to eCharging effect (1 kw eCharging leads to 8 to 10 kW performance gain)
Isn't that exact the same approach AMG took with the new C63s (they made a big announcement at the time and demo how it works) - makes turbo lag almost a thing of the past and adds power.
Yes very similar, using Garrett e-turbo technology.
05-13-2024, 11:13 PM
