992.2 order - week 8?
#76
Just the lack of. You need different tools and different logic to fix issues which are not mechanical in nature.
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So what are they? Organic in nature?
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from what my dealer told me 2024 model year will be 992.1...... whenever model year 2025 ordering starts then you can order a 992.2..... my guess is that it wont be until third quarter of 2024 for ordering a 992.2
#80
My guess is 992.2 ordering will commence sooner in Q2 2024.
#81
If the configurator goes up as expected in February then dealers will have their allocations a month or two before that and also their own configurator a month or so before. - i.e they might be able to "reserve" a car from january or even december.
The increase in bhp for the S and GTS is substantial so the base would be a tough decision - even if you want only ICE.
The increase in bhp for the S and GTS is substantial so the base would be a tough decision - even if you want only ICE.
Last edited by silversurfer6; 10-11-2023 at 07:02 PM.
#82
Porsche pretty much perfected it in racing and other high end luxury manufacturers use hybrid powertrains for power and/or economy of their flagship vehicles. Feels like Porsche would get it right if, so what's the downside worry in the thread about assuming Porsche does their thing?
#83
Seen a lot of this wishing hybrid wasn't coming. Serious question, what could be wrong with a 911 hybrid powertrain?
Porsche pretty much perfected it in racing and other high end luxury manufacturers use hybrid powertrains for power and/or economy of their flagship vehicles. Feels like Porsche would get it right if, so what's the downside worry in the thread about assuming Porsche does their thing?
Porsche pretty much perfected it in racing and other high end luxury manufacturers use hybrid powertrains for power and/or economy of their flagship vehicles. Feels like Porsche would get it right if, so what's the downside worry in the thread about assuming Porsche does their thing?
#84
One thing is certain, there are bound to be teething issues with any 911 mild hybrid.
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#86
Yes and I know first hand that the Panamera and Cayenne hybrids do in fact have their challenging issues.
BMW is having them as well. There are multiple faults at both manufacturers.
Last edited by RatherJaded; 10-12-2023 at 06:25 AM.
#87
The system in the 911 will likely be very similar to the systems in the Panamera, Cayenne, BMW and Audi models. The hybrid system is probably coming from ZF and integrated into the transmission just like in all those other cars.
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48v system with an electric motor affixed to the transmission.
My 997.2 has been flawless during my ownership. 2nd owner.
Last edited by RatherJaded; 10-12-2023 at 02:55 PM.
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Seen a lot of this wishing hybrid wasn't coming. Serious question, what could be wrong with a 911 hybrid powertrain?
Porsche pretty much perfected it in racing and other high end luxury manufacturers use hybrid powertrains for power and/or economy of their flagship vehicles. Feels like Porsche would get it right if, so what's the downside worry in the thread about assuming Porsche does their thing?
Porsche pretty much perfected it in racing and other high end luxury manufacturers use hybrid powertrains for power and/or economy of their flagship vehicles. Feels like Porsche would get it right if, so what's the downside worry in the thread about assuming Porsche does their thing?
I am not that much against hybrid but I still beleive we are at early staged and service wise we are not there yet. I do own a 24 cayenne e-hybrid though.
Regarding the 992.2 my thinking was the following: I am 45 and we will be driving e-hybrids and full electric cars for the rest of our lives. So it is a good idea and makes sense to me to get one of the last ice only 911s in 4s or 4s gts and keep it “forever” as I did with my 997 4s cabrio.
The truth though now is I am very puzzled. I have the option to get one of the last 991.1 gts 4 targa or wait for the 992.2. The problem is I have been informed about the exact bhp of the 992.2 s/gts e-hybrid and the 992.2 base will simply not make sense - and I do not care much about bhp but in this case it will be a different car.
Not a life inportant decision at any angle but since I like to keep my cars an important one
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