Torn Between 992 T vs GTS
01-19-2024, 06:08 PM
#106
I think you cannot lose with either variant of the 992.
I’m over the black wheel thing, which seems to be the GTS aesthetic, so that’s a lame but subjective reason for me to look at the T or even an S. I suppose you could just get RS Spyder wheels? Don’t even know if that would be an option for the GTS.
I’m over the black wheel thing, which seems to be the GTS aesthetic, so that’s a lame but subjective reason for me to look at the T or even an S. I suppose you could just get RS Spyder wheels? Don’t even know if that would be an option for the GTS.
I've heard that you can ask for 5 lug wheels instead of center locks, in which case you could probably ask for any other wheel as well
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01-19-2024, 06:11 PM
#107
Hey everybody!
I am a new member to the community, and will be buying my very first Porsche fairly soon!
I have the opportunity to choose between a T or a GTS. I've been doing a lot of research lately, watching videos and reading through the forums and am having a difficult time choosing between the two.
A little about me, I am 36 year old, fairly athletic male, and have always been quite the aggressive driver on the road. Been driving manual cars about 22 years now.
I've been reading and seeing a lot of people raving how the T is a more purist, enjoyable daily driver car over the GTS.
My question is, I was originally leaning more towards the GTS, I like the blacked out look, the extra features, but am worried if the ride will be too stiff and the car will be too fast to enjoy on the daily?
I plan on purchasing the either one in manual transmission
If people can give me any insight I would greatly appreciate it!
I am a new member to the community, and will be buying my very first Porsche fairly soon!
I have the opportunity to choose between a T or a GTS. I've been doing a lot of research lately, watching videos and reading through the forums and am having a difficult time choosing between the two.
A little about me, I am 36 year old, fairly athletic male, and have always been quite the aggressive driver on the road. Been driving manual cars about 22 years now.
I've been reading and seeing a lot of people raving how the T is a more purist, enjoyable daily driver car over the GTS.
My question is, I was originally leaning more towards the GTS, I like the blacked out look, the extra features, but am worried if the ride will be too stiff and the car will be too fast to enjoy on the daily?
I plan on purchasing the either one in manual transmission
If people can give me any insight I would greatly appreciate it!
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dg108 (01-20-2024)
01-19-2024, 07:24 PM
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01-19-2024, 08:34 PM
#110
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Like most threads recently some people have good posts and are helpful in the comparison and feedback as the OP was asking for, including detailed feedback of what they like for their preferred choice. Others straight out sh*t starters, and others uninformed sharing their opinion. Lots of fans for both. Glad the OP made his decision and I’m sure he will be happy with the GTS.
01-19-2024, 08:38 PM
#111
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Anytime someone figures out the right model to order another angel is produced in the factory!
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01-20-2024, 08:32 AM
#112
LOL. The T is not particularly good. I suggest you listen to people that have owned lots of Porsche sports cars. Jethro Bovingdon at Road and Track was gushing about it, then it was found to be slower round a track than a Mustang. Its an end of model run, parts bin special, most flick them on very quickly except those that get upsold endless options and have the irrational belief its somehow similar to a GT3. Its a nice basic 911 but nothing special at any level. The GTS is far superior in every way and probably the pick of the standard Carrera range.
TL;DR its a base 911 with irrelevant tweaks and performs accordingly. Better still get a Cayman GTS infinitely superior to a T, more HP, better engine, better balance etc. Most people buy the T because they desperately want a "911" but are money challenged.
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01-20-2024, 09:30 AM
#113
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LOL. The T is not particularly good. I suggest you listen to people that have owned lots of Porsche sports cars. Jethro Bovingdon at Road and Track was gushing about it, then it was found to be slower round a track than a Mustang. Its an end of model run, parts bin special, most flick them on very quickly except those that get upsold endless options and have the irrational belief its somehow similar to a GT3. Its a nice basic 911 but nothing special at any level. The GTS is far superior in every way and probably the pick of the standard Carrera range.
TL;DR its a base 911 with irrelevant tweaks and performs accordingly. Better still get a Cayman GTS infinitely superior to a T, more HP, better engine, better balance etc. Most people buy the T because they desperately want a "911" but are money challenged.
TL;DR its a base 911 with irrelevant tweaks and performs accordingly. Better still get a Cayman GTS infinitely superior to a T, more HP, better engine, better balance etc. Most people buy the T because they desperately want a "911" but are money challenged.
Just get the 911 that works for you and its so subjective to say a GTS is better than a T...
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01-20-2024, 11:30 AM
#114
At its core which do you want=379 hp or 443 hp?
01-20-2024, 12:52 PM
#115
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my .02
T if your going to drive it a lot, be your DD/primary.
GTS if it's going to sit in the garage most of the time being a weekend/cars&coffee/HPDE role.
T if your going to drive it a lot, be your DD/primary.
GTS if it's going to sit in the garage most of the time being a weekend/cars&coffee/HPDE role.
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01-20-2024, 01:54 PM
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01-20-2024, 02:05 PM
#118
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Off the top of my head, to the best of my memory, and obviously some are just my opinions:
I don't believe you can get the GTS with the light weight package and a rear seat.
Centerlock wheels are impractical
They have the same engine, and the smaller turbos of the base/T will probably be advantageous in a wider range of DD scenarios
Insurance is likely cheaper
It would be reasonable to assume that the same engine with less power will be more reliable. ( From what I have seen reported though the delta in WHP between the trims isn't nearly what it is on paper)
turbo brakes will be more expensive to maintain without really any benefit on the street, plus added weight.
Alcantara is a PITA to clean and keep clean.
If you plan to mod/upgrade they are basically the same car performance wise after some bolt-on's.
I don't believe you can get the GTS with the light weight package and a rear seat.
Centerlock wheels are impractical
They have the same engine, and the smaller turbos of the base/T will probably be advantageous in a wider range of DD scenarios
Insurance is likely cheaper
It would be reasonable to assume that the same engine with less power will be more reliable. ( From what I have seen reported though the delta in WHP between the trims isn't nearly what it is on paper)
turbo brakes will be more expensive to maintain without really any benefit on the street, plus added weight.
Alcantara is a PITA to clean and keep clean.
If you plan to mod/upgrade they are basically the same car performance wise after some bolt-on's.
01-20-2024, 02:18 PM
#119
Off the top of my head, to the best of my memory, and obviously some are just my opinions:
I don't believe you can get the GTS with the light weight package and a rear seat. -> As if anyone on this forum can detect the weight difference of the light weight package on the street. No way. I lost more weight in my last diet and didn't notice that the car felt any different.
Centerlock wheels are impractical. ->. Then option the non-centre lock wheels
They have the same engine, and the smaller turbos of the base/T will probably be advantageous in a wider range of DD scenarios. -> Not sure I agree and less power potential unless you replace the turbos
Insurance is likely cheaper. -> If true, immaterial
It would be reasonable to assume that the same engine with less power will be more reliable. ( From what I have seen reported though the delta in WHP between the trims isn't nearly what it is on paper). -> Zero reason to believe any difference in reliability and Porsche almost definitely built it to handle far more power than the GTS puts out
turbo brakes will be more expensive to maintain without really any benefit on the street, plus added weight. -> More expensive to replace maybe but the T brakes look so small... real aesthetic down grade
Alcantara is a PITA to clean and keep clean. -> Not much different than leather and if it worries someone, opt for all leather. Race-tex isn't the only option and no change in cost.
If you plan to mod/upgrade they are basically the same car performance wise after some bolt-on's. -> Yes, upgrade the turbos and tune the T ... and lose engine warranty
I don't believe you can get the GTS with the light weight package and a rear seat. -> As if anyone on this forum can detect the weight difference of the light weight package on the street. No way. I lost more weight in my last diet and didn't notice that the car felt any different.
Centerlock wheels are impractical. ->. Then option the non-centre lock wheels
They have the same engine, and the smaller turbos of the base/T will probably be advantageous in a wider range of DD scenarios. -> Not sure I agree and less power potential unless you replace the turbos
Insurance is likely cheaper. -> If true, immaterial
It would be reasonable to assume that the same engine with less power will be more reliable. ( From what I have seen reported though the delta in WHP between the trims isn't nearly what it is on paper). -> Zero reason to believe any difference in reliability and Porsche almost definitely built it to handle far more power than the GTS puts out
turbo brakes will be more expensive to maintain without really any benefit on the street, plus added weight. -> More expensive to replace maybe but the T brakes look so small... real aesthetic down grade
Alcantara is a PITA to clean and keep clean. -> Not much different than leather and if it worries someone, opt for all leather. Race-tex isn't the only option and no change in cost.
If you plan to mod/upgrade they are basically the same car performance wise after some bolt-on's. -> Yes, upgrade the turbos and tune the T ... and lose engine warranty
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01-20-2024, 05:17 PM
#120
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LWP isn't just about losing weight, it changes the character of the driving experience.
The "then spec it different" arguments aren't compelling to me when we are trying to compare trims apples to apples. Porsche lets you go to town, and you could fully gild a T where it would probably make more sense to get a GTS.
What I meant by my modification comment was if you were going to mod either car, the starting points are different but the end point for both is basically the same. So the warranty concerns would be the same for either car. Sure the GTS has more power than a T, but for the streets it's still relatively low compared to whats out there.
The "then spec it different" arguments aren't compelling to me when we are trying to compare trims apples to apples. Porsche lets you go to town, and you could fully gild a T where it would probably make more sense to get a GTS.
What I meant by my modification comment was if you were going to mod either car, the starting points are different but the end point for both is basically the same. So the warranty concerns would be the same for either car. Sure the GTS has more power than a T, but for the streets it's still relatively low compared to whats out there.