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If straight line acceleration is important to you then get the GTS. The T feels like an older Carrera in that it's not that fast, and 911s historically haven't been fast cars. People say you can just tune the T but IMO that would completely ruin the characteristics of the power delivery. The boost curve is very conservative and the turbos are small. The result is a very NA feel. As close as you can get to NA currently with a turbocharged engine with no hybrid assist.
If you're into stuff like center locks and ceramic brakes I would also push you towards the GTS.
If you want a 911 that feels like more chassis than engine, which they have been for a very long time, then get the T.
If straight line acceleration is important to you then get the GTS. The T feels like an older Carrera in that it's not that fast, and 911s historically haven't been fast cars. People say you can just tune the T but IMO that would completely ruin the characteristics of the power delivery. The boost curve is very conservative and the turbos are small. The result is a very NA feel. As close as you can get to NA currently with a turbocharged engine with no hybrid assist.
If you're into stuff like center locks and ceramic brakes I would also push you towards the GTS.
If you want a 911 that feels like more chassis than engine, which they have been for a very long time, then get the T.
I had the chance to test drive a 992 S this weekend, although it was in PDK.
I loved the feel of it, and liked the torque and acceleration. Even in the stiffest setting I didn't mind it, if anything preferred the feeling.
If the GTS feels similar to the S definitely leaning towards going that route.
I also may just get the T for a few months and when the GTS allocation comes in trade for that.
I specced the T to a lightweight build, around 130k, and my GTS would be around 165k. I'd be getting both at MSRP
I am here with you. It is a hard decision and depending on who you ask, you will get very different responses. GT3T/GTS/T. I know there is a $55k-$70k spread as I configured them below. Obiously, I can shave each of these options down. The last build has the CXX leather and buckets thus the bloated price but will probably be dropped especially if the plan is to install rear seats. Obviously, the GT3 is the the most exclusive and will best retain its value. My wife greatly dislikes my Spyder as we have two small kids and a dedicated two-seater does not work for the family to take that car so it is just my six-year-old and I that ride in it. The GT3 can be retrofitted which although not ideal, can handle a rear seat. My dealer only sells at MSRP and I have been on the GT3 list and he is expecting allocations to drop next month.
Looking at the other four-seat options for driver's cars leave only the T and GTS (and possibly the S but not as special IMO). Reviewers rave about how the T is all the car you ever need but others have sold theirs saying that they found them a bit meh. I didn't build any of these as a "poverty spec" as I like leather dashes, good headlights, etc. I also like the Sport Design look on the T and GTS and the black trim so that is a decent chunk of change. No PCCBS available on either of those though which is a let down as you used to be able to get the GTS with PCCBS. I would have to give up my '22 718 Spyder though which I specced out with buckets, PCCBS, etc. so that would be sad. I also want to be able to match as close as possible the dynamics and fun of that car. Obviously, no wind in the hair.
I am here with you. It is a hard decision and depending on who you ask, you will get very different responses. GT3T/GTS/T. I know there is a $55k-$70k spread as I configured them below. Obiously, I can shave each of these options down. The last build has the CXX leather and buckets thus the bloated price but will probably be dropped especially if the plan is to install rear seats. Obviously, the GT3 is the the most exclusive and will best retain its value. My wife greatly dislikes my Spyder as we have two small kids and a dedicated two-seater does not work for the family to take that car so it is just my six-year-old and I that ride in it. The GT3 can be retrofitted which although not ideal, can handle a rear seat. My dealer only sells at MSRP and I have been on the GT3 list and he is expecting allocations to drop next month.
Looking at the other four-seat options for driver's cars leave only the T and GTS (and possibly the S but not as special IMO). Reviewers rave about how the T is all the car you ever need but others have sold theirs saying that they found them a bit meh. I didn't build any of these as a "poverty spec" as I like leather dashes, good headlights, etc. I also like the Sport Design look on the T and GTS and the black trim so that is a decent chunk of change. No PCCBS available on either of those though which is a let down as you used to be able to get the GTS with PCCBS. I would have to give up my '22 718 Spyder though which I specced out with buckets, PCCBS, etc. so that would be sad. I also want to be able to match as close as possible the dynamics and fun of that car. Obviously, no wind in the hair.
Has anybody actually put back seats into a gt3? In any event, if you want back seats and to put more than two in the car, I think a GTS is the way to go. I mean, it’s not at all comfortable for rear seat passengers anyway. But it’d be even more uncomfortable with a gt3’s stiffer spring rates.
If it were me and I needed a car that comfortably accommodates more than 2, I wouldn’t get a 911 or a 718. Or get one but be sure you have something else for hauling the family around. Maybe keep the 718 and add an SUV for now.
Has anybody actually put back seats into a gt3? In any event, if you want back seats and to put more than two in the car, I think a GTS is the way to go. I mean, it’s not at all comfortable for rear seat passengers anyway. But it’d be even more uncomfortable with a gt3’s stiffer spring rates.
If it were me and I needed a car that comfortably accommodates more than 2, I wouldn’t get a 911 or a 718. Or get one but be sure you have something else for hauling the family around. Maybe keep the 718 and add an SUV for now.
Yes, some people CXX back seat but most just buy them from Suncoast of their local dealer. A quick search will net you all the parts you need for seats and belts.
Obviously, we have multiple vehicles including the family SUV and Sedan. However, for a fun drive in the Porsche, it is me and my six year old. My wife rode in it once and now refuses to ride in it including on date night as it is "not her car".
That being said, if I actually get my my GT3T allocation, I think it is probably a no brainer just for the fact that I can drive it for a couple years and still break even when I sell it. I went back and took out some fluff from my three builds but left in the extended leather etc. they are now $220, $175, and $146. The T is $10k more than my Spyder and given the current market, I may be able to strait up trade with a little cash on top--should I choose to go that route.
Yes, some people CXX back seat but most just buy them from Suncoast of their local dealer. A quick search will net you all the parts you need for seats and belts.
Obviously, we have multiple vehicles including the family SUV and Sedan. However, for a fun drive in the Porsche, it is me and my six year old. My wife rode in it once and now refuses to ride in it including on date night as it is "not her car".
That being said, if I actually get my my GT3T allocation, I think it is probably a no brainer just for the fact that I can drive it for a couple years and still break even when I sell it. I went back and took out some fluff from my three builds but left in the extended leather etc. they are now $220, $175, and $146. The T is $10k more than my Spyder and given the current market, I may be able to strait up trade with a little cash on top--should I choose to go that route.
Those prices seem nutty. My 22 GTS was $157,380 with every option that I wanted. I configured it just the way I wanted and didn't really care about the price.
09-18-2023, 12:04 AM
