tna3

I happened to come across the CAR magazine article titled “The Next Two 911s”. If you are subscribed to Apple News it’s free.

Some take aways: Huge increase in production numbers starting in November this year for the 911’s as 718s are shifting factories. The 992.2 maybe available starting February next year. GT2 will get 750 hp hybrid.

********Here is snippet below. **************Not too long ago, Porsche was hoping that an increase in displacement from 3.0 to 3.4 litres would more than compensate for all the mandatory pending clean-air actions,

But it now seems 3.6 litres is a safer bet.

Dubbed 9A3 Evo, the new mainstay powerplant is expected to develop 40obhp and 347lb ft in the two- and four-wheel-drive Carreras (up from 38obhp and 332lb ft), 454bhp and 406lb ft in the best-selling Carrera S cars (up from 444bhp and 39ilb ft), and circa 483bhp and 413lb ft in the Carrera GTSs (up from 473bhp, but with peak torque down from 420lb ft).

Currently rated at 503bhp and 518bhp, we expect the output of the more thoroughly de-smogged GT3 units to increase only very slightly to around 508bhp for the GT/touring and 520-525bhp for the GT3 RS. Last but not least, there are the Turbo and the Turbo S, both of which should feature the latest 9A3 flat-six engine. The Weissach grapevine is suggesting 612bhp and 583lb ft for the Turbo (up from 572bhp and 553lb ft) and 68obhp and 5981b ft (up from 64Ibhp and 590lb ft) for the hard-charging S.

Denny Swift

Maybe I’m alone in this, but increased power is pointless and absolutely the last thing that would entice me to buy a new Porsche. The current cars have more than enough. If there were news that the 6-speed from the GT3 or 718 was going to be available in the T, now that would get my attention…

Actually, news of lower weight, less power, a 6-speed, and a more basic interior with physical buttons would get my attention (and pigs may fly). The Boxster saved Porsche and allowed the 911 to get fatter and more refined (less visceral); with the sunsetting of the Boxster/Cayman line, Porsche has a new hole to fill, and more power in the 911 isn’t the answer.

22992

So if correct, the 3.6 will be turbo or hybrid, because those numbers don't come out of a 3.6 N/A

Dream in PTS

“Huge increase in production numbers starting in November this year for the 911’s”

And yet can’t get parts for current low production.

nyca

I don't know what to believe anymore. That 3.6 engine has got to weigh more than the 3.0, and with the platform going hybrid, weight is the main thing to battle so how does adding a heavier motor help them with that?

I do believe the 718 EV will tank quickly after some initial "gotta have it" customers move through the acquisition process. The reason is simple - what makes the 718 a unique car, the mid engine setup and chassis dynamics of such, that all goes away when the car is basically the same battery sled/electric motor setup as every other EV. That's not to say it will be a "bad" car, it will be fine, but the things that define what the 718 was are gone once it goes EV - it will have to attract a different buyer segment.

Dream in PTS

Same. I mean, how many wildly different reports are we supposed to digest?

bwhale

The article doesn't quantify a "huge increase", but I have doubts that Porsche actually wants to sell significantly more 911s. The current production volume of the 911 works quite nicely for Porsche's bottom line. Who knows what a 10%, 20% or 50% increase in cars built does to their pricing power, especially over an entire model cycle.

aggie57

Have you ever actually driven a decent EV? All this talk about EV’s being the same is frankly nonsense; done well the Cayman/Boxster EV should be an awesome car and make the outgoing model - and likely our 911s - feel plain old. I’m really looking forward to see what they come up with.

Tobeit

How is the Polestar?

tna3

Here is what it says:“And far from apologetically limping over the finish line, tail between its rear wheels, the combustion-engined 911’s sunset years will involve a dramatic increase in production volumes – adding up to 15,000 units a year, starting this autumn.”

bwhale

thanks - thats a pretty big jump over the 42k reported built 911s last year. i'll take the under on any punters willing to bet Porsche produces just over 57k 911s in 2024.

Wilder

Porsche is now a public company. Unending increases in sales and profit are expected. Everything that comes out of the CEOs mouth implies more sales and more profit. Seems like everyone at Porsche is very aware of the massive brand value and are intent on squeezing every ounce of it, even if it means the inevitable corrosion of the brand over the long term.

Huge increases in production = increasingly a common car.

Happy to own the stock in the short term though...

22992

So a huge price increase AND watering down resale values? Hummm...Both of those would have a negative impact on demand, and it's hard to believe there is enough demand to absorb both the cost increase and diminished resale. Not to mention the hit to exclusivity. If we are being honest, exclusivity is a purchase driver for some people. I personally don't want to see 30 other cars just like mine every time I take it out. That alone could drive me to purchase something else in the future.

ipse dixit

I wonder if the 15k number includes all 911 variants, including GT models. If it did, then it's not that significant.

Master Deep

I guess it depends where you live? I see a dozen 911s from every era on even a 45 min drive everyday down here.