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Old 04-11-2023, 07:24 PM
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Hello,
Hoping I can get some input here.

I have a 992 T on order but have an opportunity to get a '23 992 S as well. The price difference between the T and S (including ADMs) is coming to about $20,000.
Is the S substantially superior to T? I guess to re-word my question, is S performance $20K better than T?
On paper, the HP is about 379 on T vs 443 on S. 0 to 60 is 4.3 vs 4.0 respectively.

I also understand the 992 T is fairly new and just being delivered but quite a few rennlisters have driven previous versions of T and S.

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The whole "can't afford a GTS" type commentary is ridiculous.

There seem to be 2 types on here... Guys buying their dream car they have worked their life to obtain, so who is anyone to say they can't afford something? It is amazing thing to be able to buy ANY 911, even used ones.

Or there are guys who have multiple P-cars and or multiple other cars and are making refined spec selections and can clearly afford whatever they want.

I for one own multiple P cars and other cars and can afford whatever I want. But I think the Turbo and GTS trims are frankly ugly so ordered a highly speccd S. Would I have preferred a GT3T? Yes. Can I afford a GT3T? Yes. Can I get an allocation? No. Do I want a GT3? Nope, wouldn't be caught dead with a wing.

Buy what you want or what you can afford. And drive the hell out of it and enjoy every moment. Ignore the pea brained on here.
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Originally Posted by itrocks4u
Hello,
Hoping I can get some input here.

I have a 992 T on order but have an opportunity to get a '23 992 S as well. The price difference between the T and S (including ADMs) is coming to about $20,000.
Is the S substantially superior to T? I guess to re-word my question, is S performance $20K better than T?
On paper, the HP is about 379 on T vs 443 on S. 0 to 60 is 4.3 vs 4.0 respectively.

I also understand the 992 T is fairly new and just being delivered but quite a few rennlisters have driven previous versions of T and S.

Thanks!
Given the T has the base engine perhaps look at the Base vs S thread, lots of views etc. there:

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1238...carrera-s.html
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Old 04-11-2023, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by itrocks4u
Hello,
Hoping I can get some input here.

I have a 992 T on order but have an opportunity to get a '23 992 S as well. The price difference between the T and S (including ADMs) is coming to about $20,000.
Is the S substantially superior to T? I guess to re-word my question, is S performance $20K better than T?
On paper, the HP is about 379 on T vs 443 on S. 0 to 60 is 4.3 vs 4.0 respectively.

I also understand the 992 T is fairly new and just being delivered but quite a few rennlisters have driven previous versions of T and S.

Thanks!
0-60 on the 992S has been shown to be 2.9 seconds in more than one auto press professional road test. The S is a very fast ride which will 1/4 mile around 11 seconds and trap mid 120s.
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Originally Posted by itrocks4u
Hello,
Hoping I can get some input here.

I have a 992 T on order but have an opportunity to get a '23 992 S as well. The price difference between the T and S (including ADMs) is coming to about $20,000.
Is the S substantially superior to T? I guess to re-word my question, is S performance $20K better than T?
On paper, the HP is about 379 on T vs 443 on S. 0 to 60 is 4.3 vs 4.0 respectively.

I also understand the 992 T is fairly new and just being delivered but quite a few rennlisters have driven previous versions of T and S.

Thanks!
Dup., Sorry.

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Old 04-11-2023, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shelbyking
0-60 on the 992S has been shown to be 2.9 seconds in more than one auto press professional road test. The S is a very fast ride which will 1/4 mile around 11 seconds and trap mid 120s.
A couple of things.

You are posting the PDK time. OP seems to want the manual based on his numbers.

OP is using Porsche’s published times. We know they can go faster, but presumably if the S is faster than it’s posted time, the T will be as well. So likely the .3 second gap between 0-60 times will remain.

As for the choice, there shouldn’t be a 20k gap if you are specing it the same. It should be around 8-10k I believe. So while an S isn’t worth 20k more if you’re just talking HP and brakes, you seem to be putting other things on it to add to the price. And those do have value. Sorry if that doesn’t actually answer the question,

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Watch some reviews of the comparisons on YouTube. You’ll see the answer….or not.
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obviously S has a higher horse power engine... However, T has the same suspension as S and does not have the suspension of a base.. I don't believe many people are noting this and everyone just looking at HP comparison and that you can get a stick now with the base engine... if higher horse power is not your thing (like it is not for me) then T is a better choice for you since you are getting an S suspension...
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This obviously comes down to personal preference. I had a 991.2 T and now have a 992s, both manuals. I have not driven a 992T but the 991 was a great car. I would expect both 992’s are not available for a test drive. I would consider how you planning to use the car, and how long you plan to keep it. For me, if I specked a T, less is more and I would add LWB’s. I would load up an S.
The 992’s are extremely refined and not as raw as a 991, especially the earlier ones. Good luck with your choice and have fun with the process.
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Just get the T and if the power isn't enough for you, add a $2500 M Engineering tune and you'll have more power than an S. And $17,500 still in your pocket.
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Make your T a Turbo S with just $2,500.
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Make your T a Turbo S with just $2,500.
You get so butt hurt whenever anyone mentions a tune.
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Appeal of T to me was getting all the S sport package goodies i want with out the stuff I really dont need. Manual, lsd, ptv, ras, pse, spasm... As others said can always upgrade power and brakes later if you feel it is lacking. Bonus for me is standard sport tex interior, and cool factor of rear seat delete, removed sound deadening, and lightweight glass. In the end I'm not that concerned about the overall weight saving since I am coming from a 4000lbs+ car. Just feels like a special 911. Feels like Porsche made the T especially for me LOL.
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Originally Posted by stiff///M
You get so butt hurt whenever anyone mentions a tune.
I don’t care who gets a tune. I find it comical when anyone says buy a tune, and your base 911 instantly becomes the trim level you wanted, but couldn’t afford.

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Speaking of tuning, tune on the S is gonna be the same HP as a GTS with a tune. The base or T with smaller turbos can’t match that with the tune. For argument sake. The S is considered a higher tier model if that matters. If you have a chance for either one you are a lucky man
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
I don’t care who gets a tune. I find it comical when anyone says buy a tune, and your base 911 instantly becomes the trim level you wanted, but couldn’t afford.
Lol, couldn't afford. I've seen plenty of your replies in other thread and you win the award for the most insecure GTS driver ever.
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