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I don't know how else to say this in a way that you could understand.
OK, so your “logical” justification for getting a -T over an -S is because most other people do not spec a “stripper” -S?
Just get a stripper -S, pull out the rear seats, and it will be within 20lb of a -T.
Now, if your specific use case does not justify the extra dollars for an -S, I can understand that. But to justify it because of weight does not make “logical” sense.
OK, so your “logical” justification for getting a -T over an -S is because most other people do not spec a “stripper” -S?
Just get a stripper -S, pull out the rear seats, and it will be within 20lb of a -T.
Now, if your specific use case does not justify the extra dollars for an -S, I can understand that. But to justify it because of weight does not make “logical” sense.
Originally Posted by avid
The lower weight that makes the car more agile coupled with the smaller turbos that spool faster and make the car more responsive is what I'm looking for.
If you go back and read what I wrote, I specifically said that I will not be tracking the car, that it will be driven on canyons and roadtrips only. I don't need 440HP for that. Going fast in a straight line is boring to me. Not being able to reach 5k in twisty roads is boring to me. The sweet spot for funnest canyon cars is 300-400HP and light. I also said that with the T, I can always upgrade power to and above the S but it doesn't make sense to downgrade the S. I furthermore said getting as light as possible is a priority because light cars are more responsive. Last I checked, you can't option light weight glass, light weight carpet, and I'm not ripping out the rear seats out of a new car. You seem to have confused my mention that most S cars probably weigh ~3,500 lbs vs my goal of around 3,100 with that being my purpose. It's not. I want small turbos for more responsiveness and the best platform to drop additional weight. That's the T.
Forget about lapping, even a spirited drive through the canyons and you would suffer brake fade and "near death" scary type of squishy brake pedal feel.
Not been my experience. Standard brakes are fine for even the most aggressive street driving.
If you go back and read what I wrote, I specifically said that I will not be tracking the car, that it will be driven on canyons and roadtrips only. I don't need 440HP for that. Going fast in a straight line is boring to me. Not being able to reach 5k in twisty roads is boring to me. The sweet spot for funnest canyon cars is 300-400HP and light. I also said that with the T, I can always upgrade power to and above the S but it doesn't make sense to downgrade the S. I furthermore said getting as light as possible is a priority because light cars are more responsive. Last I checked, you can't option light weight glass, light weight carpet, and I'm not ripping out the rear seats out of a new car. You seem to have confused my mention that most S cars probably weigh ~3,500 lbs vs my goal of around 3,100 with that being my purpose. It's not. I want small turbos for more responsiveness and the best platform to drop additional weight. That's the T.
You do what you want to do, I don’t agree with your arguments but it’s your money so feel free.
It’s been reported in several reviews, it’s not a mystery. And in the T reviews, the acceleration linearity is often cited.
linear accel is not the same as turbo lag. Turbo lag is when you hit the gas and nothing happens due to the time it takes for the turbos to spool. The c2 feels more linear because it has less power. There is little to no turbo lag on the S, which is also cited in many S reviews.
Well,
Not sure I am adding anything here but my stripper spec C2 weighs 3,354lbs with exactly half a tank of fuel in it. That is 1,520kgs
£85,000 3 years ago.
That is the same as my old 991.2.
I absolutely do not have any turbo lag whatsoever.
0-60 is 3.6 seconds using Dragy and the timing box. No sports Chrono. and we now have 50,000 miles on the ****.
It has been perfect from day 1. I love it.
Last edited by politeperson; 04-14-2023 at 10:52 AM.
Well,
Not sure I am adding anything here but my stripper spec C2 weighs 3,354lbs with exactly half a tank of fuel in it. That is 1,520kgs
£85,000 3 years ago.
That is the same as my old 991.2.
I absolutely do not have any turbo lag whatsoever.
0-60 is 3.6 seconds using Dragy and the timing box. No sports Chrono. and we now have 50,000 miles on the ****.
It has been perfect from day 1. I love it.
OK, so your “logical” justification for getting a -T over an -S is because most other people do not spec a “stripper” -S?
Just get a stripper -S, pull out the rear seats, and it will be within 20lb of a -T.
Now, if your specific use case does not justify the extra dollars for an -S, I can understand that. But to justify it because of weight does not make “logical” sense.
Don’t care about speed, but supposedly more responsive engine bro that is slower and getting a heavier car to start with that is designed as a four seater instead of buying the same brands (or others) lighter two seater………………..
obviously S has a higher horse power engine... However, T has the same suspension as S and does not have the suspension of a base.. I don't believe many people are noting this and everyone just looking at HP comparison and that you can get a stick now with the base engine... if higher horse power is not your thing (like it is not for me) then T is a better choice for you since you are getting an S suspension...
Rear suspension setup and options are what makes the T an attractive alternative. The power can be remedied for about 1500 bucks.
So are you in your T until you decide to go ahead with S?
Any links to what youre referring to? On YouTube or RL?
The commentaries were 991 gen obviously as very few people have both driven 992 GT3 and T as of yet. Search the main 991 T thread and the 991 GT3 board. I owned both cars myself and was really impressed by the T.
Get real, the base brakes will not fade on the street.
+1 — the base brakes in my 991.2 T held up great for spirited road use. I can’t imagine they are not the same or better for the 992. Some of these comments make you wonder how much real driving the posters have actually done in the different models.
04-13-2023 | 07:35 PM
