they told me that on the phone I sent mine back got a refund

 

So do these give CEL or no CEL? I'm confused. Is there a newer version?

 

Soul has a newer version that shouldn’t give a CEL

 

I am running the new version on my 23 with no CEL for 1800 miles now. Also with a Akropovic exhaust.

DD

 

I just realized that @Shogunade was also responsible for this thread and this recent gem…

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1341...-a-joke-2.html

There’s little value in these public tantrums.

 

…and when you modify a car, this type of thing is literally part of the journey.

 

I don't understand why I'm being vilified for presenting facts so other members could see my POV. Was it the way I worded it? Was it too harsh? I admire your sensibilities.

Be that as it may, judge away.

And I hope you're wrong and that these posts have brought value. Maybe going fwd, they'll clearly write in their descriptions that a product will throw a CEL, or publicly disclose the GB price so members won't have to waste their time signing up, waiting for the close date, then finding out they could've just gotten it cheaper elsewhere.

 

What was it that Soul changed in their exhaust? Is it simply a custom spacer? Or the CAT design changed?

 

It’s a new set of cat cores with superior scrubbing ability. No spacers needed.

 

So they have changed the brands and not using HJS?

 

From John earlier in the thread:

“Thank you for your patience and your support, we are almost done final testing/transition to a set of cat cores superior in scrubbing capabilities to HJS HD that has not had any catalyst inefficiency codes in testing over thousands of miles and a multitude of cars. And not just the 992 Carrera/Turbo platform but all the rest of the 2020+ VW/Audi/Lamborghini/Porsche models that we've seen have these same sensitivities to exhaust changes.

Best regards,
John Gaydos”

The cats are out on sale now and on several members cars.

 

Thank you. So, they have moved to HJS. I thought they were already using HJS.

So is it safe to assume HJS = no CEL? Is that why fabspeed CATs and JCR CATs have no CEL?

 

He said they moved to a set of cat cores superior to HJS.

 

They all have CELs for new cars. 992 exhaust tolerances changed mid production and newer cars (I believe MY22+) are throwing a CEL. My understanding that HJS will do this. Evidently Soul is making an in house designed cat core that won’t. Only solution otherwise is a tune.

Europipe doesn’t CEL but that’s apparently only for Euro cars, not US market.

Anyone feel free to correct any errors.

 

Hmm, this is interesting. So all these vendors claiming no CEL essentially need to revise their claims to limit MYs to 2020-2021?