Bekim911

they told me that on the phone I sent mine back got a refund

3-Pedals

So do these give CEL or no CEL? I'm confused. Is there a newer version?

Master Deep

Soul has a newer version that shouldn’t give a CEL

TK42ONE

I am running the new version on my 23 with no CEL for 1800 miles now. Also with a Akropovic exhaust.

DD

detansinn

I just realized that @Shogunade was also responsible for this thread and this recent gem…

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1341...-a-joke-2.html

There’s little value in these public tantrums.

detansinn

…and when you modify a car, this type of thing is literally part of the journey.

Shogunade

I don't understand why I'm being vilified for presenting facts so other members could see my POV. Was it the way I worded it? Was it too harsh? I admire your sensibilities.

Be that as it may, judge away.

And I hope you're wrong and that these posts have brought value. Maybe going fwd, they'll clearly write in their descriptions that a product will throw a CEL, or publicly disclose the GB price so members won't have to waste their time signing up, waiting for the close date, then finding out they could've just gotten it cheaper elsewhere.

3-Pedals

What was it that Soul changed in their exhaust? Is it simply a custom spacer? Or the CAT design changed?

Master Deep

It’s a new set of cat cores with superior scrubbing ability. No spacers needed.

3-Pedals

So they have changed the brands and not using HJS?

Master Deep

From John earlier in the thread:

“Thank you for your patience and your support, we are almost done final testing/transition to a set of cat cores superior in scrubbing capabilities to HJS HD that has not had any catalyst inefficiency codes in testing over thousands of miles and a multitude of cars. And not just the 992 Carrera/Turbo platform but all the rest of the 2020+ VW/Audi/Lamborghini/Porsche models that we've seen have these same sensitivities to exhaust changes.

Best regards,
John Gaydos”

The cats are out on sale now and on several members cars.

3-Pedals

Thank you. So, they have moved to HJS. I thought they were already using HJS.

So is it safe to assume HJS = no CEL? Is that why fabspeed CATs and JCR CATs have no CEL?

Master Deep

He said they moved to a set of cat cores superior to HJS.

rk-d

They all have CELs for new cars. 992 exhaust tolerances changed mid production and newer cars (I believe MY22+) are throwing a CEL. My understanding that HJS will do this. Evidently Soul is making an in house designed cat core that won’t. Only solution otherwise is a tune.

Europipe doesn’t CEL but that’s apparently only for Euro cars, not US market.

Anyone feel free to correct any errors.

3-Pedals

Hmm, this is interesting. So all these vendors claiming no CEL essentially need to revise their claims to limit MYs to 2020-2021?