shrimp money

Look at Penske Auto Group stock, it’s doing fantastic.

Everyone thinks because Carvana and Carmax stock are in the dumps, means high line is doing bad.

phila12180

Not sure about all states but in most a deposit cannot be kept; they have to give it back.

needmoregarage

Delete - wrong thread

pk27

5K is literally a rounding error on a 120-130K build. I paid 5x that for my GT4 and have no regrets.

Evolution1

I would be willing to pay the ADM if I was offered an allocation, I prefer to drive the car versus waiting.

I was fortunate enough to get a an allocation with out any ADM in November of 2021 from Flemington Porsche in NJ, I finally received my car in September 2022 after it was wrecked in shipment on the first go round in April of 2022 the ship hit rough seas.

FullThrottle64

Right. Ask the salesperson what the lead time is for an allocation. Until they have open allocations and/or stock on hand, the market has not cooled sufficiently....IMO.

dchang81

Haven't really followed the market that closely but are dealers asking/getting ADM like in socal giving better values for trades too? Or not really, im going to take it from both ends? Not sure if I should even bother starting to contact dealers or not but if I get a stronger trade then I'd consider paying an ADM.

Migro

Dealer just sent me a followup text weeks later, but still refuses to cut out/bring down the ADM.
Also, I contacted a few other nearish dealerships. One said they charge $15,000 ADM for a base! I didn't even respond when he said that, that's absolutely unheard of.
Another dealership further away charges MSRP, however they have 12 people on the wait list, and he said a good estimation of when I'd recieve the car is 1-1.5 years...

So really, like everyone's been saying, it comes down to if I'm willing to pay $5000 more to have it sooner rather than later.

rusmani

Im willing to bet the MSRP bump from 2023 to 2024 will be at or above $5k. I'd personally just take it, spec the car to your liking, and start the countdown to enjoyment.

Alternatively, you may be able to find a unit on the ground that someone bailed on and get lucky at MSRP. But then you are not getting the car exactly to your liking. If it's close enough or you aren't super picky, that might work out. I've seen an S cab and a GTS in stock at MSRP recently, I believe both were orders that got bailed on.

Migro

Regarding getting lucky with ground units that someone bailed on, I doubt any of the greedy dealerships by me would let them go for MSRP.. I'm seeing used models being listed for signifcantly more than new models on dealer lots most likely simply because these dealers think (maybe they are successful) they can get more money just because there's no wait for them.

Astraelraen

Send me your SA name, I'll buy it if they sell out of state .... If your in CA that's a screaming deal.

If you are on east coast seems reasonable.

Reddemon73

All,

I been searching for new GTS for the past 12 months. No luck and is told wait time is 24 months. Crazy.

Went to look at used 2022 GTS 7k miles. Dealer selling for $200k. Said it is about 40k above msrp. Is that still the norm to charge such high price on used car?

they offer me two options on two upcoming allocations. $25k ADM for 911 4S and $50k ADM for Turbo S. Both cars will arrived 4/2023.

where can a guy find a car at just msrp these days???? TIA

Smirnoff67

I highly doubt your going to find a 911 of any trim without an ADM-especially on the West Coast. Sure there's the odd MSRP deal after waiting who knows how long, but just the other I was looking at CPO 911's within 500 miles of me on the Porsche website and any that had actual pictures also had the Window Sticker which showed the MSRP price, and the actual prices were all significantly marked up. Saw a 2022 Turbo S or GTS (can't remember which) for sale with a $53,000 ADM. All the others I saw were marked up a bunch as well, but that one sticks out in my head. I really don't believe 911 MSRP deals are going to be available for quite some time without waiting a year or two and having some good luck. I hope you find something though. Who knows, maybe you'll be in the right place at the right time and catch one. Others have, so why not you too?​​​​​​​

rokkerkory

ADM seems impossible to avoid rn in West Coast but gotta bit the bullet if you can. I def cannot wait like a year or two. Life’s way too short.

shrimp money

As much as I love high selling prices on the GTS, $40k over MSRP even on a brand new car is high, even for spring of 2022. Highest I’ve ever witnessed on this forum is $229k for a $176k MSRP GTS coupe. Car was bought to flip, and it went to Grand Prix Motors with delivery miles.

I looked last week, and there’s around 14 used GTS coupes from $170k to $200k.