$5000 ADM on a 2023 Base 992
12-11-2022, 08:53 AM
#91
Burning Brakes
I highly doubt your going to find a 911 of any trim without an ADM-especially on the West Coast. Sure there's the odd MSRP deal after waiting who knows how long, but just the other I was looking at CPO 911's within 500 miles of me on the Porsche website and any that had actual pictures also had the Window Sticker which showed the MSRP price, and the actual prices were all significantly marked up. Saw a 2022 Turbo S or GTS (can't remember which) for sale with a $53,000 ADM. All the others I saw were marked up a bunch as well, but that one sticks out in my head. I really don't believe 911 MSRP deals are going to be available for quite some time without waiting a year or two and having some good luck. I hope you find something though. Who knows, maybe you'll be in the right place at the right time and catch one. Others have, so why not you too?
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12-11-2022, 09:04 AM
#92
Prices or dropping significantly on Cars.com. I would not pay an adm on a base right now personally. There are over 200 992c2s on cars.com, I believe an All-time high since I’ve been checking. Some with price reductions over 10k from list, although list was quite high to begin with. We’re in the beginning of a downward trend
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01-13-2023, 07:52 PM
#93
Hi, I have been contacting dealers since Nov'22 to Jan'23: ADM went from 15% (of MSRP)-> 10%, 15k, 10k to no ADM for some dealers. I almost bought a 4S at MSRP but the dealer wanted me to buy the extended warranty, service plan, also 7.99% rate for financing, as part of the deal. I got an allocation through a local dealer without ADM, a week later. As a principle, I would not pay ADM, but it is a personal choice. In addition, with the economy downturn, and mass layoffs (at least in Tech, where I work), ADM would be a hard bargain in 2023. Hope this helps.
01-13-2023, 07:56 PM
#94
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Hi, I have been contacting dealers since Nov'22 to Jan'23: ADM went from 15% (of MSRP)-> 10%, 15k, 10k to no ADM for some dealers. I almost bought a 4S at MSRP but the dealer wanted me to buy the extended warranty, service plan, also 7.99% rate for financing, as part of the deal. I got an allocation through a local dealer without ADM, a week later. As a principle, I would not pay ADM, but it is a personal choice. In addition, with the economy downturn, and mass layoffs (at least in Tech, where I work), ADM would be a hard bargain in 2023. Hope this helps.
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01-13-2023, 08:35 PM
#96
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Wow, nice. Looks like I have to revisit my allocation search. I've been on a waitlist with a Bay Area dealership for a GTS at MSRP for 1.5 years now! Kind of a joke. Will settle for an S allocation at this point.
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01-13-2023, 08:48 PM
#97
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May sound unrelated, Tesla dropped their prices in new cars substantially, even accounted for changes in federal rebate.
Lots of cars not selling on auctions, which is a major driver for prices new and used.
One way or another the lots will be full again. Larger factories cannot survive trickling cars, they should be ideally at least 80% capacity. The only way for that to happen is shoveling cars down the dealers' throats.
At the end of Q1 should be easy to find MSRP. When the '24 model lineup is announced, I believe we'll see discounted 992s.
Let's see how well this post ages. I'm aiming for 4% off MSRP around September, when the .2 models will hit the dealers, filling up lots.
Lots of cars not selling on auctions, which is a major driver for prices new and used.
One way or another the lots will be full again. Larger factories cannot survive trickling cars, they should be ideally at least 80% capacity. The only way for that to happen is shoveling cars down the dealers' throats.
At the end of Q1 should be easy to find MSRP. When the '24 model lineup is announced, I believe we'll see discounted 992s.
Let's see how well this post ages. I'm aiming for 4% off MSRP around September, when the .2 models will hit the dealers, filling up lots.
Last edited by John Mclane; 01-13-2023 at 08:51 PM.
01-13-2023, 09:13 PM
#98
My dealership is requesting a European Delivery in lieu of an ADM. Every one of these they get, affords the dealership another allocation. This makes me feel like I'm getting an experience for my money versus just handing over a chunk of change, plus it helps the dealership. If it hasn't been offered by your sales person, it might be worth enquiring about...
01-13-2023, 09:45 PM
#99
May sound unrelated, Tesla dropped their prices in new cars substantially, even accounted for changes in federal rebate.
Lots of cars not selling on auctions, which is a major driver for prices new and used.
One way or another the lots will be full again. Larger factories cannot survive trickling cars, they should be ideally at least 80% capacity. The only way for that to happen is shoveling cars down the dealers' throats.
At the end of Q1 should be easy to find MSRP. When the '24 model lineup is announced, I believe we'll see discounted 992s.
Let's see how well this post ages. I'm aiming for 4% off MSRP around September, when the .2 models will hit the dealers, filling up lots.
Lots of cars not selling on auctions, which is a major driver for prices new and used.
One way or another the lots will be full again. Larger factories cannot survive trickling cars, they should be ideally at least 80% capacity. The only way for that to happen is shoveling cars down the dealers' throats.
At the end of Q1 should be easy to find MSRP. When the '24 model lineup is announced, I believe we'll see discounted 992s.
Let's see how well this post ages. I'm aiming for 4% off MSRP around September, when the .2 models will hit the dealers, filling up lots.
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01-13-2023, 11:22 PM
#100
Hi, I have been contacting dealers since Nov'22 to Jan'23: ADM went from 15% (of MSRP)-> 10%, 15k, 10k to no ADM for some dealers. I almost bought a 4S at MSRP but the dealer wanted me to buy the extended warranty, service plan, also 7.99% rate for financing, as part of the deal. I got an allocation through a local dealer without ADM, a week later. As a principle, I would not pay ADM, but it is a personal choice. In addition, with the economy downturn, and mass layoffs (at least in Tech, where I work), ADM would be a hard bargain in 2023. Hope this helps.
(As long as the interest rate is lower than yield/inflation, use a loan even if you can afford to pay cash.)
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01-13-2023, 11:27 PM
#101
7.99% is ridiculous. I have 800+ credit and was quoted 6.74% from PFS just before new year. No added points. Chase bank (private client) got it done for 6.04% so I went with them instead.
(As long as the interest rate is lower than yield/inflation, use a loan even if you can afford to pay cash.)
(As long as the interest rate is lower than yield/inflation, use a loan even if you can afford to pay cash.)
01-13-2023, 11:34 PM
#102
I feel a bit suspicious seeing people claiming it's impossible to find MSRP dealers in the west coast. I used to believe the narrative but once I made an effort to call many dealers, I found many with no ADM (and even more if you are local). Same for one of my friends who recently got a GTS allocation at MSRP in California. We do not have prior relationships with the dealers or any trade-in. Do we have some dealership owners or SAs posting these claims?
The key is really doing your work - call as many dealers as you can!
The key is really doing your work - call as many dealers as you can!
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01-14-2023, 10:32 AM
#103
I feel a bit suspicious seeing people claiming it's impossible to find MSRP dealers in the west coast. I used to believe the narrative but once I made an effort to call many dealers, I found many with no ADM (and even more if you are local). Same for one of my friends who recently got a GTS allocation at MSRP in California. We do not have prior relationships with the dealers or any trade-in. Do we have some dealership owners or SAs posting these claims?
The key is really doing your work - call as many dealers as you can!
The key is really doing your work - call as many dealers as you can!
01-14-2023, 12:08 PM
#104
Burning Brakes
I picked up a Defender 130 I had ordered this week, I paid MSRP but I had to buy $3k worth of crap I did not want as part of a “package” to get it. This included rubber floor mats at double the retail price, over priced window tint and some kind of cheap ceramic coating that probably won’t last a year. So I would just pay the $5k and be happy you get to order a car the way you want it.
01-14-2023, 02:00 PM
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