Adding a mild hybrid will not reduce complexity. The battery itself is 200-300lbs plus ECU mapping, wiring etc. Working on these things in the future will be more expensive as well.

For a street car that is a weekend fun car or daily, the current S and GTS variants are already too fast. Not really sure what type of smoothness you are seeking but i don’t want my 911 to feel like Mercedes SL.

 

Presumably yes, as that’s how MB, BMW, JLR, etc. have done it. Battery power to boost low RPM torque, which allows for a bigger single turbo for mid- and high-RPM power.

 

We’ll see how Porsche does it. If they’re late to the party, they usually make a big splash.

But if they follow MB, the car will add a battery and a starter/generator between the PDK and engine (we’ve heard about PDK accommodating this for years) to spin the crank off the line. It will eliminate a turbo and all associated plumbing, and all belts and accessory drives off the engine. The aforementioned battery would now power AC and all other accessories. In higher performing models, turbo(s) can be electrically spun off-boost.

As I’ve said elsewhere, it’s further evolution of the ICE more so than what most consider a ‘hybrid’.

 

Will the car have a starter motor (at all) for the ICE engine, or can the hybrid battery/motor start it? I guess they would have to provide a mechanism to charge the hybrid battery if it should fall to flat line charge, I've read some stories that these mild hybrids really aren't designed for the pack to fall to zero charge because then you can't start the ICE engine anymore, essentially beaching the car since the 12V subsystem has no starter motor.

 

100% agree.

 

There are still weight, packaging, and drivetrain dynamics in the equation with a mild hybrid. One turbo is going to be dropped, etc.

 

Do we get an official look this year and if so, the venue/platform?

 

Years ago I had a Honda Civic Hybrid. The transition from electric to ICE was entirely seamless. I've driven others since then, including the Stop/Start functions and I've yet to encounter anything like what Honda put together for that car. As far as batteries, the Honda had the EV Battery and it had a 12 Volt Battery. Normally the EV Battery and Motor started the car. But if the EV Battery was to low (extremely rare) the system would start the gasoline engine with the 12 volt battery and a traditional ICE starter motor. I would assume/hope that if/when Porsche goes down this road that they'd come up with something similar and hopefully as seamless as what Honda did for the Civic.

 

They have to assume that demand for the 992.2 Base will increase because people will want to avoid the hybrid. They cannot be that naive can they?

 

^ Again, if it is a ‘mild hybrid’, it will likely not be marketed any differently (see MB, BMW, and JLR). Only those who follow along places like this will know or care.

 

mclarens artura electric motor adds like 50-60kg (roughly 110-140lb), no clue why here it would have to be 300ish.

 

Wrote this 7 months ago
3.6l hybrid engine on s/gts models, 3.0 non hybrid stays with base one. s/4s 510hp, gts 540hp.

https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1318...l#post18759356

 

I think people will initially want the latest and greatest. It won’t be until the .2’s are out of warranty (as long as demand stays high) that the separation will occur in value. How long after that is the question.

 

We’ll see…but an increase in displacement is doubtful due to China taxing heavily over 3.0l.

 

300 seems high. What they should do is cut down on the EV only range - I believe the Ferrari 296 does 15 miles EV only. Who needs that on a sports car? Nobody. Best case you want enough EV only power to get out of your neighborhood quietly to the first main road - 5 miles EV range would be more than enough on a car like the 911, which would allow a smaller/lighter battery pack. These are the kind of design choices they need to make to keep the weight under control.