992.2 April 2024 Release
Racer
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From: NY
Some additional confirmation from my dealer.
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
Racer
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Some additional confirmation from my dealer.
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
Racer
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Some additional confirmation from my dealer.
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
Burning Brakes
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All of your hypotheses aligns also with what I inferred. I think they will carry the manual like you say only in the GT cars and a T model with the base ICE engine. Remember Porsche has no problem doing a late introduction with the manuals as they did with 992.1 as well. With everything else being hybrid it means manuals will start to cost Porsche more $ to meet emissions and fuel economy standards. So it makes sense to start limiting production to just a few models. You will have to pay more $ if you want the manual so Porsche can use the money for carbon offsets elsewhere. There is still time to grab 992.1 S or GTS manual before these are no longer produced!
I truly hope they continue to keep the manual transmission. It’s a joy to drive.
Instructor
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From: Alberta
Some additional confirmation from my dealer.
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
7th Gear
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Racer
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From: NY
Dealer Management had call / meeting with Porsche on the upcoming 911. Not sure if other models were discussed.
It seems to align with info posted from others in this thread.
I’m sure there will be specialty models with a manual a la ST and Sport Classic. They will be limited and cost a bunch of $$$.
It seems to align with info posted from others in this thread.
I’m sure there will be specialty models with a manual a la ST and Sport Classic. They will be limited and cost a bunch of $$$.
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From: Los Angeles
Some additional confirmation from my dealer.
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
All models will be hybrid besides base 911.
Base model will get a small bump in power to 387hp.
No more manual transmissions for any 911 not sure if they will bring out T later. This probably doesn’t include GT cars.
They mentioned the hybrid battery will be in the front which doesn’t make much sense to me unless these will be AWD?
I really can’t believe that Porsche is doing such drastic changes on the 911 on a refresh. All their other models - Cayenne, Macan, Panamera have not gone fully hybrid. Hell the refreshed Cayenne S got the V8 back! This just makes no sense considering they said 911 will be last pure ICE model in the lineup…..
FWIW, battery placement can be anywhere in the vehicle…whatever is best for packaging and weight distribution, so naturally in the front for a 911.
Racer
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From: NY
Yes, but what type of hybridization is the big question. A so-called ‘mild hybrid’, which arguably isn’t a hybrid at all, is a world of difference from a plug-in vehicle. An E-Ray type of hybrid is somewhere in between, but would make all ‘hybrid’ Carreras AWD. My bet is on ‘mild hybrids’, which is much ado about nothing.
FWIW, battery placement can be anywhere in the vehicle…whatever is best for packaging and weight distribution, so naturally in the front for a 911.
FWIW, battery placement can be anywhere in the vehicle…whatever is best for packaging and weight distribution, so naturally in the front for a 911.
Drifting
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It all depends on how "good" the hybrid implementation is. If they mis-step, people will flip their "orders" to the ICE Base which of course would then become even more unattainable than it is now. I think the real issue with the S/GTS is going to be - is the hybrid a single turbo engine now? To trim weight, it might have to be, somewhere they have to recover the weight penalty spent on the battery and the electric motor.
Last edited by nyca; Nov 11, 2023 at 05:35 PM.
Instructor
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From: CT
Had a chat with my dealership SM. He said after the recent allocation drop, he had a quick call with his Regional on an issue and was given some general intel that the regional admitted was very loose....but seems to match some of above: .2 C2 powertrain unchanged but ecu boost. As usual, some options will become standard but it will also get some more interesting standard colors/opt colors.
Battery assist will be in C2S and above. Any fall deliveries 2024 will be likely be C2/4/S/4S with variants being delivered in 2025. Debut April at NYAS.
Randomly he was also told he would not be getting any more .1 S allocations.
Battery assist will be in C2S and above. Any fall deliveries 2024 will be likely be C2/4/S/4S with variants being delivered in 2025. Debut April at NYAS.
Randomly he was also told he would not be getting any more .1 S allocations.
Last edited by ctdubl07; Nov 11, 2023 at 05:36 PM.
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Not necessarily. Can be neutral in weight while actually reducing parts/complexity, and provide great smoothness, torque, and throttle response in conditions most of us use these cars 90% of the time.
Last edited by Alan Smithee; Nov 11, 2023 at 05:38 PM.