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Old 07-12-2022, 01:24 PM
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OP here. I just wanted to let you all know how much I appreciate each and every reply! Some great points made here. I have decided to accept the 4 GTS allocation and I placed a deposit on it over the weekend. Now the wait begins...

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Good choice!! The wait is excruciating!!
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Old 07-12-2022, 06:42 PM
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I'll be frank. I think awd is mostly a marketing ploy, you only really need it in really cold climates and even then, a rwd car with a good set of winter rubber does just as good a job without thr complexity.

Now, I ratchet that up a notch with sports cars. Why anyone wants awd over 2wd is absolutely beyond me.

Rwd all day, every day, it's a sports car.
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Old 07-12-2022, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NevilleNobody
I'll be frank. I think awd is mostly a marketing ploy, you only really need it in really cold climates and even then, a rwd car with a good set of winter rubber does just as good a job without thr complexity.

Now, I ratchet that up a notch with sports cars. Why anyone wants awd over 2wd is absolutely beyond me.

Rwd all day, every day, it's a sports car.
Have you ever experienced a great, beautifully balanced AWD sports car with winter tires in winter conditions? It can be transcendent, and offers a completely different dimension to the sports car driving/owning experience.
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Originally Posted by Tifoso
Have you ever experienced a great, beautifully balanced AWD sports car with winter tires in winter conditions? It can be transcendent, and offers a completely different dimension to the sports car driving/owning experience.
I havent driven a 911 in the snow, but many "sport" cars like M3, M5, etc with snow tires and I will take my X5M with all season tires over any of those with winter tires in the snow!
If the car you are getting is going to be a daily that will see anything other than warm climates, I wouldnt think twice about getting a 4. For me it will only see warm roads so rwd is my choice.
Old 07-12-2022, 08:30 PM
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^^^ Put yourself in OP's shoes: he wants a RWD>AWD but only the AWD is available. What would you do if you were ready to pull the trigger? That's right, the same all of us would do in this current market and take the GTS 4 allocation.
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^^^ Put yourself in OP's shoes: he wants a RWD>AWD but only the AWD is available. What would you do if you were ready to pull the trigger? That's right, the same all of us would do in this current market and take the GTS 4 allocation.
I'm in the exact same position the RWD wasn't offered to me only the AWD. I would have lost the allocation and that wasn't going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
^^^ Put yourself in OP's shoes: he wants a RWD>AWD but only the AWD is available. What would you do if you were ready to pull the trigger? That's right, the same all of us would do in this current market and take the GTS 4 allocation.
100% and as I said in my previous posts that I would absolutely order the 4 if I was OP. We are all passionate here and just discussing the pros and cons of both. There is no "better" car here, just personal preferences
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Old 07-13-2022, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
^^^ Put yourself in OP's shoes: he wants a RWD>AWD but only the AWD is available. What would you do if you were ready to pull the trigger? That's right, the same all of us would do in this current market and take the GTS 4 allocation.
Thanks Chief. One thing I should have probably elaborated upon is this - I got the 4 GTS allocation at MSRP. I've got 4 Porsche dealerships in my geographical area. The closest to my home is a very small dealership and I know the GM very well. He's basically told me that he cannot get me a GTS. The next closest dealership basically punted me to the curb because I've not purchased a Porsche from them in the past. They told me I would need to do so and they could get me an allocation in two years. The third dealership, from whom I purchased my '21 GT4 in January 2021 wanted a $25K ADM to get me a car. The fourth, with whom I placed the 4 GTS deposit last weekend, had no such "you must be a previous customer in good standing" attitude and, again, is at MSRP. I have the itch - I decided I didn't want to wait any longer.

So, i guess I feel blessed to have actually secured an allocation. If and when the Porsche market, and in general the entire auto dealership market in the US gets back to semi-normal, we, as buyers and enthusiasts, need to REMEMBER how we've been treated the past couple of years and the utter BS we've had to put up with in dealing with these Porsche dealers. End rant...
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The solution is to get both.
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The solution is to get both.
I’m holding out for a 3-wheel drive.
Best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan
^^^ Put yourself in OP's shoes: he wants a RWD>AWD but only the AWD is available. What would you do if you were ready to pull the trigger? That's right, the same all of us would do in this current market and take the GTS 4 allocation.
There are times the AWD will perform better...in the rain, slippery roads, it inspires more confidence...and blasting out of corners and mid-corner grip. There's a reason the AWD is more expensive.
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Originally Posted by P-Car Newbie
Thanks Chief. One thing I should have probably elaborated upon is this - I got the 4 GTS allocation at MSRP. I've got 4 Porsche dealerships in my geographical area. The closest to my home is a very small dealership and I know the GM very well. He's basically told me that he cannot get me a GTS. The next closest dealership basically punted me to the curb because I've not purchased a Porsche from them in the past. They told me I would need to do so and they could get me an allocation in two years. The third dealership, from whom I purchased my '21 GT4 in January 2021 wanted a $25K ADM to get me a car. The fourth, with whom I placed the 4 GTS deposit last weekend, had no such "you must be a previous customer in good standing" attitude and, again, is at MSRP. I have the itch - I decided I didn't want to wait any longer.

So, i guess I feel blessed to have actually secured an allocation. If and when the Porsche market, and in general the entire auto dealership market in the US gets back to semi-normal, we, as buyers and enthusiasts, need to REMEMBER how we've been treated the past couple of years and the utter BS we've had to put up with in dealing with these Porsche dealers. End rant...
I for one am happy for you and think you made the right call! Happy motoring when delivery time comes.
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I for one am happy for you and think you made the right call! Happy motoring when delivery time comes.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by P-Car Newbie
OP here. I just wanted to let you all know how much I appreciate each and every reply! Some great points made here. I have decided to accept the 4 GTS allocation and I placed a deposit on it over the weekend. Now the wait begins...

Thanks again all.
good choice. If you order pdk you are getting very near turbo launch quickness. I had a 996 gen C4S and having AWD in a 911 was such a blast (and I would strongly argue does not detract at all from the experience). My standard canyon drive where occasionally you may have some gravel on corners was infinitely less stressful in that car. SO MUCH Confidence in the limits. You’ll love the car. Have fun with the spec and ordering process.
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Originally Posted by P-Car Newbie
Thanks Chief. One thing I should have probably elaborated upon is this - I got the 4 GTS allocation at MSRP. I've got 4 Porsche dealerships in my geographical area. The closest to my home is a very small dealership and I know the GM very well. He's basically told me that he cannot get me a GTS. The next closest dealership basically punted me to the curb because I've not purchased a Porsche from them in the past. They told me I would need to do so and they could get me an allocation in two years. The third dealership, from whom I purchased my '21 GT4 in January 2021 wanted a $25K ADM to get me a car. The fourth, with whom I placed the 4 GTS deposit last weekend, had no such "you must be a previous customer in good standing" attitude and, again, is at MSRP. I have the itch - I decided I didn't want to wait any longer.

So, i guess I feel blessed to have actually secured an allocation. If and when the Porsche market, and in general the entire auto dealership market in the US gets back to semi-normal, we, as buyers and enthusiasts, need to REMEMBER how we've been treated the past couple of years and the utter BS we've had to put up with in dealing with these Porsche dealers. End rant...
I’m in your exact situation today. I was waiting for a RWD GTS but an AWD fell in my lap today at MSRP. I’m reading every post and watching every YouTube video ever made trying to decide! Given a choice I’d pick RWD but unfortunately my choice is AWD or wait 6 (or more) months for RWD.

ANY regrets on your decision?


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