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Old 04-14-2022, 01:08 PM
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All - I ordered a 4GTS Coupe pretty well equipped (177k MSRP) late last year. I’ve unexpectedly been transferred across country leaving CA. Amazingly my housing costs and taxes are going to go WAY up vs where I’m at. Also, with lack of home inventory I’m truly not sure how much I’ll be spending.

I put a 5k deposit and agreed to 8k over MSRP for my allocation. I’m trying to decide whether to buy the car and drive it, then sell if I need to put that money toward a home OR just back out now and lose my 5k. If I find a home similar price to me CA home I’d keep the car.

Given the craziness of the 911 market what is my potential downside on the car? I’d be buying it then potentially selling it 2-3 months later?

thanks for your help
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I think you can likely take delivery and if you have to sell it 2-3 months later at worst break even, if not make a little. $177k MSRP is a bit high but the $8k over MSRP is reasonable and resale on a fairly brand new 992 4GTS should be a no brainer. As long as you didn't get it in Lizard Green with Bordeaux interior or something like that.
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Originally Posted by YL992GTS
All - I ordered a 4GTS Coupe pretty well equipped (177k MSRP) late last year. I’ve unexpectedly been transferred across country leaving CA. Amazingly my housing costs and taxes are going to go WAY up vs where I’m at. Also, with lack of home inventory I’m truly not sure how much I’ll be spending.

I put a 5k deposit and agreed to 8k over MSRP for my allocation. I’m trying to decide whether to buy the car and drive it, then sell if I need to put that money toward a home OR just back out now and lose my 5k. If I find a home similar price to me CA home I’d keep the car.

Given the craziness of the 911 market what is my potential downside on the car? I’d be buying it then potentially selling it 2-3 months later?

thanks for your help
Is the $5000 not refundable?? I am sure they could sell the car for more than $8,000 over so maybe they will give you your $5000 back

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It’s chalk exterior with black leather and chalk stitching.
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Is the $5000 not refundable?? I am sure they could sell the car for more than $8,000 over so maybe they will give you your $5000 back
I had a similar thought, but it’s non-refundable
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It’s chalk exterior with black leather and chalk stitching.
I can't imagine you will lose money buying it and selling it at some point.
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by buying it your cost will be 185 K plus taxes , so you will be above 200 k OTD
Even if the market continues to be hot, I seriously doubt you will break even on it
above 200 k for a GTS is a stretch
Some people will say that cars are going for 50 k above sticker , which I think is very rare , more likely 25-30 above sticker with Less than 2 k miles , so close to your break even point and that is retail not trade in
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Don’t keep it.

If you are moving to a new place and looking to buy something comparable, I would liberate myself from any existing financial burdens until you know what the final price tag is, and all the associated costs of buying a new home and landscaping/furnishing the way you want.

Then, once settled in, if the finances will support, try again. Who knows, by then, you may have entirely new priorities of where to put your money, eg, bigger house, boat, plane, golf CC, etc. Or, the new 992.2 will be coming out.

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Originally Posted by pitt911
by buying it your cost will be 185 K plus taxes , so you will be above 200 k OTD
Even if the market continues to be hot, I seriously doubt you will break even on it
above 200 k for a GTS is a stretch
Some people will say that cars are going for 50 k above sticker , which I think is very rare , more likely 25-30 above sticker with Less than 2 k miles , so close to your break even point and that is retail not trade in
Agree- after paying taxes ect it may be tougher than you think.

I would tell the Dealer your situation that you can pass on the car if they refund the $5000 or you will just flip the car yourself in their local market
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Tell the dealer what is going on. My guess is they will be happy to gibe you your $5K back and sell the car for more than $8K over in this market. There may be someone on RL that would be happy to take it. Let the dealer know that if they hold you to it, you will just buy the car and flip it right away. I imagine they will give you the non-refundable deposit - or most of it - back.
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Originally Posted by Jimmy-D
Is the $5000 not refundable?? I am sure they could sell the car for more than $8,000 over so maybe they will give you your $5000 back
Originally Posted by YL992GTS
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If you're in CA, there is no such thing as a "nonrefundable deposit".

In fact, that's true in many states not just CA.

The dealer can say what they want (even put it in writing), but if you put the deposit down with a CA dealer, it's refundable. Period.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
The dealer can say what they want (even put it in writing), but if you put the deposit down with a CA dealer, it's refundable. Period.
Yes to this, one of the benefits of California. All deposits are refundable.

Another alternative, if you feel you will sell the car quickly, is to discuss with the dealer about leasing it. You do not incur the sales tax initial hit and can put very little down up front. You can still get out of the lease early, if the dealership is willing to buy you out (for a price greater than what you currently owe on the lease). In the current market it seems immediately the case.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
If you're in CA, there is no such thing as a "nonrefundable deposit".

In fact, that's true in many states not just CA.

The dealer can say what they want (even put it in writing), but if you put the deposit down with a CA dealer, it's refundable. Period.
Yep. And like warranties, so-called non-refundable deposits are just the starting point for a discussion.
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Originally Posted by YL992GTS
All - I ordered a 4GTS Coupe pretty well equipped (177k MSRP) late last year. I’ve unexpectedly been transferred across country leaving CA. Amazingly my housing costs and taxes are going to go WAY up vs where I’m at. Also, with lack of home inventory I’m truly not sure how much I’ll be spending.

I put a 5k deposit and agreed to 8k over MSRP for my allocation. I’m trying to decide whether to buy the car and drive it, then sell if I need to put that money toward a home OR just back out now and lose my 5k. If I find a home similar price to me CA home I’d keep the car.

Given the craziness of the 911 market what is my potential downside on the car? I’d be buying it then potentially selling it 2-3 months later?

thanks for your help
i find it amazing your taxes are going way up vs CA. I left after the 13.3% income tax rate plus property tax, gas tax, air tax, water tax, tolls, and on and on. Okay maybe I made up a few of these taxes but when my water bill was over a grand it made me say time to get out!

are you moving to NYC? I cannot imagine a place that costs more and taxes more besides NYC.
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Originally Posted by 992gts
i find it amazing your taxes are going way up vs CA. I left after the 13.3% income tax rate plus property tax, gas tax, air tax, water tax, tolls, and on and on. Okay maybe I made up a few of these taxes but when my water bill was over a grand it made me say time to get out!

are you moving to NYC? I cannot imagine a place that costs more and taxes more besides NYC.
We have a unique property in Orange County on a very special lot. To replicate the feeling in NC where we’re moving our mortgage will be substantially higher (much bigger house) I know, it’s shocking and unbelievable to me as well. Lower taxes will offset some, but not the mortgage differential.

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