So eloquent thanks for this post

 

Love the blue
I was so on the fence but finally went with Aventurine

 

You are quite welcome. I know a lot of people, my neighbors included, don’t understand why the shortages?? After all things are getting back to normal, so why the shortages? Like a lot of things in life - it’s complex, and fixes aren’t always easy, nor quick.

 

You won’t be sorry. I was at a recent PCA tour/rally and there were over 60 Porsche owners at this tour. I was blown away at the response I got about my car, and especially the color…all from total strangers. . Best comment I got from a couple was - “it looks so sophisticated….must be a special color from Porsche”.

 

Thanks I work in data and cloud software and understand what you mean perfectly ahah


Indeed i love how it has some duality (pop or muted) depending on light and yet very understated overall

 

Ball officially rolling on my GTS ... Manual Coupe LW package Lava Orange.

 

I recently sold my GT Silver 2017 911 S and am #1 on the 911 GTS waiting list at my Dealer in Ct. I got back 80% of the negotiated sticker price for the 2017 after 4.5 years and 15.5k miles.
There are NO GT-3 allocations for years. There are NO Base Turbo's at all and Turbo S waitlists are filled for years. The GTS is perfect for me.
I am getting a GTS RWD Coupe, it's expected to be here in late July.
The options include:
Gentian Blue Metallic
Aerokit in High Gloss Black
Window Trim in High Gloss Black
Porsche Logo in High Gloss Black
Deletion of Model Designation on Rear
8 Speed PDK
Rear Axle Steering
Adaptive Sports Seats Plus 18 Way
Ventilated Seats
GT Sport Steering Wheel in Leather
Bose Surround Sound.
The MSRP is $157,750. Considering how well I did selling the 2017 911S I am OK with that price.

 

Same dates for my C4S cab!

 

I was told yesterday by my SA Aerokit is available, but will add 8 weeks to production. Not sure where he got that info from, but he kept me on the line while he seemingly was checking somewhere….

 

4GTS coupe...same 3/18 estimated delivery date as icanthelpit with a 12/16 freeze date.

 

You guys are only looking at one portion of the problem . In one respect you are right . It is too late . The shortage problem is already here and to fix it would have required so much more than just ramping up production . The trade war with China imposed tarrifs which still exist . That limited the purchases of chips as well as the negotiation of companies with the chipmakers in. China . The current administration wrote an executive order which anmounts to nothing mire than just a review . Its a big ZERO . Enough politics .

No one at my dealership was called yet . I saw the new GM who I know well on Friday . He just was promoted and inherited little neat stacks of folders . He assured me that he has to sort out who paid a deposit in the order and is aware that I not only have a trade but have bought a lot of cars . Whether I am on the first round or the next depends on how many he got . So I will be patient . I am at MSRP and so is everyone else at my dealership . If they cant sell. a person a car they wont take a deposit .

So I hope I hear soon.

 

I have nearly the identical build . Awesome choice !
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNHTE7N1

 

As far as I am aware, there was no major chip shortage pre-pandemic. The chip shortage became acute right about the time when many businesses, world-wide, started to close up. If you want to get a good layperson’s explaination, a few months ago, 60 Minutes (I believe) did a good story about TSMC (Taiwan). In their expose, they interviewed the CEO of TSMC, who explained a lot of the reasons for the shortages.

The top 3 chip manufacturers in the world - Intel, Samsung and TSMC - are all non-Chinese. No idea where Germany (for the Porsche) gets it’s chips, so not clear to me how the US-China trade war impacts a German car company?

PS - If you want to know something that is really scary….The US Government, and specifically the military, relies on advanced, cutting edge chips from TSMC…which is a major reason for the strategic importance of Taiwan to the US. Chinese incursions, and Chinese threats to reunify, are a huge concern.

Finally, if you want to involve “politics” (you brought it up, not me) - who first imposed the tariffs? Not Biden. Oh, and Mr Seditionist’s trade war did exactly jack for the American people or US manufacturing, with the US consumer footing much of the bill (just like the Orange Man’s wall), so ya, “enough politics”:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-win-trade-war

 

When I get my car with no ADM I'll. post pics ,I dont care if you agree or disagree with my views . It won't matter to either of us anyway . The problem is here and no matter what anyone thinks its what they end up paying that matters to that person .

What really ought to matter are the dealerships who stick to MSRP and their commitment to keeping their local loyal buyers happy . Thats a dealership worth establishing a relationship with.

Here are all of the reasons COMBINED Minus the politics .
https://evertiq.com/news/50134
The part you forgot -
From link
The continued trade war between the US and China is another reason chipmakers view geographical diversification as a solution to temper the semiconductor supply chain. Since 2018, the tariffs have caused a USD 5.36 billion decline on Chinese imports of semiconductors. The tariff increases over the years and unpredictable circumstances have caused major blows to many companies in a variety of industries dependent on chips. Expansion and further investment in semiconductor factories will not be a one-off solution and is not an overnight fix by any means but does offer an optimistic outlook.

 

I got a 6% discount when I order my Porsche. Took delivery April 2021. Waited 10 months. Shortly thereafter, there were no more discounts, nor Porsche’s on my dealers lot. The cupboard was bare. The over the MSRP pricing seems to be a dealer-by-dealer thing, and not set by Porsche. Eventually, supply will equal or surpass demand, and things will return to normalcy. But face it, Porsche knows it’s demographics have deep pockets and willing to pay almost anything to get the car many have been lusting over their entire life. I am financially well off, so pricing really doesn’t concern me…although I refuse to participate in price exploitation.

Please show me the last President who actually reduced the Federal deficit? Certainly NOT the Orange Man:. The answer to my question: “Of the 45 Presidents, only 14 of them have overseen a decrease in debt. Calvin Coolidge was the last President to do so.” Pretty remarkable that it was that long ago,

https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

That said, and speaking as an Independent, I have been constantly exclaiming to my Republican friends - what happened to you people?? Growing up in conservative San Diego, my parents were stanch Reaganites. But even he added to the federal deficit. I use to be able to count on Republicans to help keep a lid on the deficit. Now, that only happens when a Dem admin proposes spending…so, it’s partisan, not merit based, politics. As far as inflation goes, the only real tool any President has are the interest rates that the Federal reserve administers, printing money…and federal spending. As the economy comes back, and more people take jobs with higher wages offered by employers (incentives), the state and federal tax base will improve. GDP will go up. After all, that’s really the end game here - everybody employed and making lots of money - both employees and corporate America. That’s what the tax base is based on.

The catch here, the concern is: In good times, it’s often the retired, or those living on a fixed income (primarily SS and maybe a small pension) that fall further and further behind. Sorry, but it;’s only the Federal, and to a degree the State Governments that can do anything to protect these people….so, some spending is needed to help the disenfranchised. I’ve been lobbying my Gov Larry Hogan, a Republican in a deep blue state, to get legislation through that eliminates any state taxes for those living on a fixed income.

I support Biden’s infrastructure bill. The roads, bridges and other infrastructure sorely needs some love. However, I am not a supporter of the 2nd, larger bill. There are parts of it that I do support, but not the complete package as I see it today. I have my doubts that it will pass (Ie Democracy at work) as it currently stands.

I’m a firm believer in Democracy. Not the patriotic, flag waiving kind (saw enough of that type of “patriotic” nonsense on Jan 6th) , but the kind that believes we need to get back to listening to one another and not being afraid to disagree. Sometimes, the best ideas, the best approach comes from disagreements. With partisan politics (which is why I am an Independent), our reps usually vote party line….and I do not believe that is good for the Country. That’s not the democracy I believe in. Years ago, I took an oath to defend the Constitution…not a person, party or ideology.