992 Carrera T Club
#8206
I know it’s a long shot but does anyone have any info on an available build spot in the USA. Only ones I’ve found available to build or on the way are located in Texas and California and neither sell to out of state customers 🙄
#8207
Posted in a separate thread, but for my T brethren…
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
#8208
#8209
Posted in a separate thread, but for my T brethren…
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
#8210
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When they start the engines in the factory, they also start them and gradually bring them to redline BEFORE they are fully warmed up. I saw it on one of the Porsche factory vids. They said doing this briefly to check for leaks like that doesn't hurt the longevity. And BECAUSE it's cold and not fully warmed up, the metals have not expanded so the tolerances are loose, so engines were harmed in the making of those videos. I'm not sure, but I think they are running external coolant through the engine running on the stand too.
#8211
If it was brought to redline gradually and (more importantly!) was fully warmed up to temperature, it should be fine. That still seems very odd given the break-in guidelines provided with the manual. I wonder if it actually is protocol. If not, I would contact PCNA. You may want to confirm with them for peace of mind anyway.
#8212
#8213
When they start the engines in the factory, they also start them and gradually bring them to redline BEFORE they are fully warmed up. I saw it on one of the Porsche factory vids. They said doing this briefly to check for leaks like that doesn't hurt the longevity. And BECAUSE it's cold and not fully warmed up, the metals have not expanded so the tolerances are loose, so engines were harmed in the making of those videos. I'm not sure, but I think they are running external coolant through the engine running on the stand too.
Separately- the exhaust sounded great. Exceeded my expectations and I’m coming from a 997.2 with a full M&M exhaust.
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Macboy (03-27-2023)
#8214
Burning Brakes
My T started production March 20, was completed March 24 and is now released for transport (Stage 5). No GT3 wing for me lol. Kidding aside, it would suck if that is what is holding production, doesn't seem like something that hard to manufacture.
#8215
I have no intention whatsoever of staying under 4k rpm for 2,000 miles. Or 20 miles.
This idea seems very much like a relic of times of much poorer engineering tolerances. No skin off Porsche’s back to recommend it. If it’s a dud that has been mis-built (not to spec, spec absolutely can handle the load day one), I’d rather know sooner rather than later.
Race cars certainly aren’t subject to it, so it doesn’t seem correlated with higher spec.
Warm up is different, and is a good idea for high revs.
If you guys want to do the break in by all means do it.
I expect those first 2,000 miles will be some of the funnest ones.
This idea seems very much like a relic of times of much poorer engineering tolerances. No skin off Porsche’s back to recommend it. If it’s a dud that has been mis-built (not to spec, spec absolutely can handle the load day one), I’d rather know sooner rather than later.
Race cars certainly aren’t subject to it, so it doesn’t seem correlated with higher spec.
Warm up is different, and is a good idea for high revs.
If you guys want to do the break in by all means do it.
I expect those first 2,000 miles will be some of the funnest ones.
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#8216
Three Wheelin'
Posted in a separate thread, but for my T brethren…
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
I do know how you feel though. It's the kind of thing one can lose sleep over. I would definitely let them know. If they are in the wrong and it's not protocol, you might be able to work something out of them.
Last edited by Ikone; 03-27-2023 at 09:48 PM. Reason: edit
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renn.tp (03-27-2023)
#8217
What they do at the port is much worse. My SA was telling me about a Cayenne Turbo GT that arrived with tires, which looked like they had been through a day at the track. My RS3 arrived with 1G and 35 miles on it. I wasn't about to turn it away. At least you were there when it happened and he didn't go past redline. Like someone else said, they are tested at the factory at redline as well.
I do know how you feel though. It's the kind of thing one can lose sleep over. I would definitely let them know. If they are in the wrong and it's not protocol, you might be able to work something out of them.
I do know how you feel though. It's the kind of thing one can lose sleep over. I would definitely let them know. If they are in the wrong and it's not protocol, you might be able to work something out of them.
#8220
Posted in a separate thread, but for my T brethren…
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
Requested to ride along for the PDI road test today…watched as the foreman took the car to redline (light/medium load, somewhat gradually). Said it was protocol. I am not happy, but what can I do now. Hope it’s not going to affect long term reliability.
For real though, bringing your engine to redline and then engine braking is a very good way of ensuring that your rings seat properly. It will not affect long term reliability in a negative way.