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My dad and I on all our Porsches have done this. We never get oil leaking out, the engine seems to have a better response, and what happens is an almost negligible gain after break-in, probably because the friction is less than when new right out of the factory.
From my understanding, the biggest reason for a break-in period is to break in the engine, AND the transmission. We also need to bead the breaks.
I have a suspicion it's hard on the Transmission not just the engine, if you go pedal to the metal right out of the dealership. Of course, we don't have concrete evidence that it helps, or harms to do a break-in period or not.
What we do have is a manual that tells us to do a break-in period.
As people here have said, the Break period might be a way to make sure we don't kill ourselves in a brand-new sports car, and get used to the car's power and handling at low RPMs, but that is again just speculation.
Porsche Experience Center Atlanta does an even harder break-in than any of us For all cars, they do 0-0-500 mile break-ins, on the track, and then they beat them up on the track. They have yet to have had a single one have an issue from the hard break-in in the 15 years from who I talked to had worked there.
So It is up to you, to
Do the Porsche Guru break-in,
Do the factory break-in,
Do no break-in,
Or never run your car over 5k RPMs (even though it would be a shame).
At the end of the day, for everyone reading this and wondering how to break in the car. It is your car. Do what YOU feel most comfortable doing.
Just remember it is a sports car built with the track in mind, so it is robust. I will always vote for the Porsche Guru's Break-in. (If you still cannot decide )
With all due respect, you cannot definitively say that.
PEC doesn't care at all about their cars going 200k miles, so what they do is completely irrelevant.
Your post is nothing but hearsay frankly.
Please, show me some 911 that has gone 200k miles. That is an insane amount of miles. You would have to drive your car 20000 miles a year for 10 years straight, to get 200k miles. For most people who use Porsches as a weekend car, that is not happening,
less than one percent of Porsche owners will have to deal with the "Will my car make it to 200-thousand-miles" As many trade theirs, get new ones, buy a different one after a while.
Just read my other post, we have no proof that it helps or doesn't help. PEC does not care about their cars yes, but there are cars that they sold to people after being abused, and if we wanted to know whether or not the tracking caused problems we would need to talk to those owners.
What my information is based on though is knowing someone with a 04 GT3 with 30 thousand miles only driven on a Race Track. It has not had a single issue with the engine. The owner did not do a break-in, drove it after ordering it, and went to redline in the first drive. It is a 20-year-old car, with the only issue ever being replacing a pinion gear for a third. I think that speaks for itself
Really? Dude you drive 20k miles per year based on your last post. If you spent all this money for a car that you don't even think will last ten years, then you're much more financially blessed than I am.
With that said, the 996 forum is full of 200k mile cars. I'm sure the 997 is the same. The newer ones just haven't really been around long enough.
In fact, there are plenty of 911's with over 300,000 and 400,000 miles on the original engine. Here's one:
Really? Dude you drive 20k miles per year based on your last post. If you spent all this money for a car that you don't even think will last ten years, then you're much more financially blessed than I am.
With that said, the 996 forum is full of 200k mile cars. I'm sure the 997 is the same. The newer ones just haven't really been around long enough.
In fact, there are plenty of 911's with over 300,000 and 400,000 miles on the original engine. Here's one:
Well, you certainly showed me! That is pretty amazing. Seeing 400k miles in a Porsche is pretty insane.
Have you had any issues with it? True, but I had some trips that I had planned many years back that I took my car to, this year. Which I will not be doing for another 5 years or longer., I will not drive 20k in a year I don't think.
I am not saying my car will not last 10 years, frankly, I am not sure how long it will last. The thing with the Mesger engines though is they are bulletproof, and the most reliable engine ever made, by Porsche. We have no idea how the engines in the 992 will last. I am worried about the GTS 992s though since we have the same engine, it is pushing more HP from the same engine, which means it may have more stress problems than the T or the base
Well, you certainly showed me! That is pretty amazing. Seeing 400k miles in a Porsche is pretty insane.
Have you had any issues with it? True, but I had some trips that I had planned many years back that I took my car to, this year. Which I will not be doing for another 5 years or longer., I will not drive 20k in a year I don't think.
I am not saying my car will not last 10 years, frankly, I am not sure how long it will last. The thing with the Mesger engines though is they are bulletproof, and the most reliable engine ever made, by Porsche. We have no idea how the engines in the 992 will last. I am worried about the GTS 992s though since we have the same engine, it is pushing more HP from the same engine, which means it may have more stress problems than the T or the base
Sorry I should have clarified. The 996 I posted is not a GT car and doesn't have a Mezger. Just a standard motor with an X51 power package. Not my car, just someone in the 996 group in in. One example of many.
There's a few pics of those on this very thread, but not easy to find because you'd have to sift through 1400+ pages and over 21k posts and sadly, the search function doesn't do a very good job of finding actual photos.
Personally, I think the lizard green stitching looks amazing, but only on certain neutral colors like silver, grey, black, and white, and obviously any green exterior, which is no longer available on the T. Might pass with racing yellow exterior as well.
just ordered in gt silver - so it should fit well with it
Sorry I should have clarified. The 996 I posted is not a GT car and doesn't have a Mezger. Just a standard motor with an X51 power package. Not my car, just someone in the 996 group in in. One example of many.
That is even more impressive then! I certainly hope my engine lasts that long, if it does not you can say I told you so!! hahaaa
Now that is awesome! AND it is a two-owner car! That is pretty impressive. Thank you for showing me this.
How good is that price?
IT also had an engine overhaul major engine overhaul carried out by a very well-known Porsche Specialist workshop in 2004 @ 163,000 miles I am assuming this engine overhaul would include several things. like new pistons, new rings. New Main Bearings, all valves, and springs. The cylinder and cylinder head would probably be re-bored to ensure no compression loss. New gaskets for the cylinder heads, intake manifold, and exhaust gaskets. And other things?
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