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'The 992.2 will offer relatively minor design changes, but is likely to offer hybrid power for the first time, marking a shift in philosophy that could bring a new level of capability.
The hybrid system will be integrated into the existing flat-six engine, as the 992 was designed from the outset to be compatible with an electrified powertrain.
Initially the idea of an electrified 911 was cancelled before the 992 was launched, but Porsche has decided to revisit the concept for the model's midlife update.
Porsche will use mild-hybrid technology rather than a plug-in system, with a battery positioned ahead of the flat-six engine and between the rear seat bulkhead.
The electric motor will be positioned between the engine and existing eight-speed PDK gearbox.
It's unclear whether the technology will be applied to all models in the range, but expect it to bring a useful extra hit of performance (and, admittedly, weight) while filling torque holes in the 3-litre twin-turbo flat-six.
Efficiency should receive a boost too, with the mild-hybrid system taking load away from the petrol engine'
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Looking at the Cayenne models as an example, if they offer a hybrid option on all 992.2 models, expect a price premium of £9k ($13k) for the base hybrid over the base non-hybrid but a 0-60MPH time around .7 second quicker.
Item number 5 plays into the comment I heard earlier regarding no manual transmissions with electrification.
I saw a pair of these driving past Stuttgart last week. Looked and sounded, well, like 911's. Then I stopped at a rest stop to take a leak, and they just so happened to also pull up so I got a good and close albeit brief look at them mere meters from my T. I didn't take pictures because the drivers/testers already had annoyed looks on their faces. Pretty much exactly what you see in the photos there. My Gentian T looked better
I got in line to join the club a few weeks ago. Expected arrival is currently first week of February. I am buying it to be my daily driver. It's replacing my 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 which I have been DDing since 2005.
Here is my build
Excited would be an understatement. I'm trying to fill in the time by sponging up as much knowledge about the platform as possible.
I get where you are coming from, but the research is showing that it really does not do too much.
It is such a low part per million on carbon you are not polluting that it does not make a difference, and will barely register.
The environmental damage from the R/D, the mining for the battery/hybrid engine, and the transport on conventional cargo ships and semis all outweigh anything your one car will do over its life for the environment.
Most of the US power grid is till using coal to power homes, and the car charging grid. You charge your car at home every day which uses the grid, which is powered by coal, some nuclear, some wind/ solar, and natural gas, but its not even comparable.
Read this article to get what I mean, and you can see why it is so inconsequential at least for now, in 10-30 years maybe it will be way better, but the gas vs electric are really really close.
In 2022, about 4,231 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) (or about 4.23 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.1 About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuelscoal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 18% was from nuclear energy, and about 21% was from renewable energy sources.
The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates that an additional 61 billion kWh of electricity generation was from small-scale solar photovoltaic systems in 2022.2
U.S. utility-scale electricity generation by source, amount, and share of total in 20221
Data as of October 2023 Energy sourceBillion kWhShare of totalTotal - all sources 4,231 Fossil fuels (total) 2,553 60.4%
Natural gas1,687 39.9%
Coal 832 19.7%
Petroleum (total) 23 0.5%
Petroleum liquids 16 0.4%
Petroleum coke 7 0.2%
Other gases3 12 0.3% Nuclear 772 18.2% Renewables (total) 901 21.3%
Wind 434 10.3%
Hydropower 255 6.0%
Solar (total) 144 3.4%
Photovoltaic 141 3.3%
Solar thermal 3 0.1%
Biomass (total) 52 1.2%
Wood 35 0.8%
Landfill gas 9 0.2%
Municipal solid waste (biogenic) 6 0.1%
Other biomass waste 2 <0.1%
Geothermal 16 0.4% Pumped storage hydropower4 -6 -0.1% Other sources5 11 0.3%
You dont factor in the labor rate of 9 year old kids doing the lithium mining at $1 a day.
I got in line to join the club a few weeks ago. Expected arrival is currently first week of February. I am buying it to be my daily driver. It's replacing my 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 which I have been DDing since 2005.
Here is my build
Excited would be an understatement. I'm trying to fill in the time by sponging up as much knowledge about the platform as possible.
Cheers - Mike
Nice config. Mine is also due early Feb (Feb 2nd I think it states)... I'm in Silicon Valley so on the west coast as well. My build date is early December with my Freeze is mid November (coming soon).
Nice config. Mine is also due early Feb (Feb 2nd I think it states)... I'm in Silicon Valley so on the west coast as well. My build date is early December with my Freeze is mid November (coming soon).
I'm in the bay area too (south bay), I bet our cars will be roomies on the trip over. All my dates line up with yours it sounds like. That Ruby Star will be a head turner for sure. Congrats!
I got in line to join the club a few weeks ago. Expected arrival is currently first week of February. I am buying it to be my daily driver. It's replacing my 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 which I have been DDing since 2005.
Excited would be an understatement. I'm trying to fill in the time by sponging up as much knowledge about the platform as possible.
Cheers - Mike
Awesome. My friend has an EVO 9. Driven it and I like it. I think EVO 8/9 curb weight is similar to T. 0-60, youll probably not notice much difference in a 20 year newer Porsche. Quarter mile probably a bit better for the T. I used to be into JDM sports cars, but really nothing like a Porsche 911. After 3K miles driving T, Ive learned to really love rear engine pulling, precise (good road feel) steering, incredible grip/traction for RWD, strong throttle response and best in industry brakes (although may use just sparingly since so fun to downshift in T). Ive also learned the T has a peak boost pressure of 12 psi (vs 16 for S) and room for more given same aluminum block motor with forged crankshaft, rods and pistons, etc. Whether u mod the T or not (my friends EVO was modded), the Ts an awesome car period. Not sure if u had an exhaust on ur EVO. Ha, seems most do lots of exhaust options for the T also! Manual T will be an awesome daily good choice.
Awesome. My friend has an EVO 9. Driven it and I like it. I think EVO 8/9 curb weight is similar to T. 0-60, you’ll probably not notice much difference in a 20 year newer Porsche. Quarter mile probably a bit better for the T. I used to be into JDM sports cars, but really nothing like a Porsche 911. After 3K miles driving T, Ive learned to really love rear engine pulling, precise (good road feel) steering, incredible grip/traction for RWD, strong throttle response and best in industry brakes (although may use just sparingly since so fun to downshift in T). I’ve also learned the T has a peak boost pressure of 12 psi (vs 16 for S) and room for more given same aluminum block motor with forged crankshaft, rods and pistons, etc. Whether u mod the T or not (my friend’s EVO was modded), the Ts an awesome car period. Not sure if u had an exhaust on ur EVO. Ha, seems most do…lots of exhaust options for the T also! Manual T will be an awesome daily…good choice.
My evo is my baby, but I need to retire it from DD so I can restore the bodywork. I've been modifying it since pretty much the beginning. Funny enough with an HKS exhaust and a short throw shifter initially. Now it's got pretty much all the things you can do with a stock shortblock. It's been at ~430awhp/400awtq (26psi peak, 21ish out the top, E85 etc. etc.) since around 2011 and its now pushing 200k miles. I've done a lot of things to customize it to be my perfect DD, and I needed a worthy successor if I was going to replace it.
I have high hopes that the T will be that and more. My expectations aren't that it will perform better initially, but I'd love to be wrong. The platform looks like it has tons of potential for mods/customization though and as far as I'm concerned the T stands for tuning. It's just one big sexy ball of clay.
Afterwards I was grabbing some Currywurst for a quick lunch and noticed 4 gentlemen all wearing Singer outfits... Had to chat with them! I asked if there was one here and there is, but it's under wraps until Friday. Sadly I'll be flying out Friday so will miss it 😭
10-30-2023, 12:48 PM
Pretty much exactly what you see in the photos there. My Gentian T looked better 
