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Old 12-17-2020, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage72
I am scheduled for tint tomorrow . . . . but now I am very worried.

Let us know how it goes.
Old 12-17-2020, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorin Mark
Let us know how it goes.
I am puckered up now but I need high quality tint down here in Texas . . . . . .
Old 12-18-2020, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SBAD
This thread is an exercise in confirmation bias. Forget the 8 lbs weight savings. That is bull**** and we know it. And certainly not worth $1200. If weight was so important we would skip the 18 way seats.
I did skip the 18-ways. Carbon roof, too. And PCCBs :-)

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Old 12-18-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage72
I am scheduled for tint tomorrow . . . . but now I am very worried.
Me, too.
Old 12-18-2020, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by markchristenson
I did. Carbon roof, too. And PPCBs :-)
I just changed girlfriends.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Russian Mafia
I just changed girlfriends.
Fair point :-)
Old 12-18-2020, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by markchristenson
I did skip the 18-ways. Carbon roof, too. And PPCBs :-)
Now THAT makes sense 😉 - great color too!
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Old 12-18-2020, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Motorin Mark
Let us know how it goes.
NO PROBLEMS - high end film and an even better installer.
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Old 12-18-2020, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage72
NO PROBLEMS - high end film and an even better installer.

Great news.
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Old 12-19-2020, 02:06 PM
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and I skipped the "heavy" options like PDK, 18 ways, and sunroof - added a few things but also skipped the really expensive, lightweight adds like PCCBs and carbon roof. I just wanted a "simple," monochromatic 911 that aspired to be lighter than many of its brethren; there was no point to it other than it was my guiding ethos

I love seeing everyone's orders and marvel at them all #911psycho
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Originally Posted by TheStanman
The noise insulated glass on the Macan and other Porsches is different from this lightweight option. Honestly just wish they went with that version. Weight-savings is negligible and would rather get full sound benefit.
It’s a shame as it works very well. Motorway driving at 80mph is very quiet.

I was allowed to take her for a blast earlier, with sport mode it was a lovely experience, good noise inside, who knows how loud it is outside 😱

will see what the 911 glass does when it arrives next month (fingers crossed).
Old 12-24-2020, 01:00 PM
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Default WARNING: BEFORE YOU TINT your 992 Thermal/Lightweight glass!!!

Originally Posted by SamD
Cautionary Tale: a buddy took his MY21 C2S to same PPF place that did a superb job on my MY20 C2S in May. As part of the process of applying tint to the front passenger windows, the special glazing was damaged making the glass unusable. Apparently, the material on the inner layer responds very differently than glass, but less of an issue with the glass in frames. No immediate replacements for the windows available in the US, so now he has to go with normal 992 glass. If you are getting tinting done on a Noise Insulated Glass, might be worth a discussion with your installer . . .

**WARNING** BEFORE TINTING Thermal / Lightweight Glass on the new 992! As Sam mentioned, we were the shop that unfortunately had this happen to when we had the car in for Tint, PPF, and Ceramic Coating last week. I hope this can save another 992 owner / shop from experiencing the same issue. We have been tinting Porsche's and other marquee cars for the last 15 years, and we have never experienced a more stressful situation than this one! Our stomachs dropped to the floor!

RESOLUTION:
After picking our stomach's off the ground, I immediately called the client and explained the situation. Luckily for us, he was more than understanding and we discussed all available options. Because of the importance for our client to have the windows slightly darker, we replaced the driver and passenger glass with the standard version. We are still dealing with Porsche to see if they will take care of this out of good will, but for now, we took care of the cost for the replacement glass. We also added PPF to the full doors for our client, just for the trouble.

IF ANYONE ELSE HAS EXPERIENCED THIS SITUATION, PLEASE PRIVATE MESSAGE ME, so I can build a case and forward the information to Porsche. At the end of the day, we don't want anyone else to have this experience, so please share and pass this information along.

How it happened?
During the installation process, the film is applied to the glass and overhangs on all sides (because it is a frameless window) by 0.25-0.5". The material is then filed along the edges of the glass so you don't have any light gap. What we didn't know was (1) the car was ordered with thermal/lightweight glass (in hindsight, the way to tell the difference from the standard glass is the lightweight glass does not have the black dot matrix), and (2) the construction of the material on the inside portion of the glass is a similar product that you would apply to the screen of your iPhone (ie., Gorilla Glass). So during the filing process, the pressure from the file caused the material to crack (not the actual glass). See attached pictures.

Picture 1: Shows the crack in the material that started at the top inside edge.
Picture 2: Once it was decided that we would be replacing the glass, took a plastic razor blade and started to separate the material from the actually glass. The material started chipping away and we were left with the exposed sound insulating material.







THE FINAL PRODUCT!






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Old 12-25-2020, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by asclearbra
We are still dealing with Porsche to see if they will take care of this out of good will,
Why would this be Porsche's issue? How is it even a warranty claim?
Old 12-25-2020, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Why would this be Porsche's issue? How is it even a warranty claim?
Agree 100%, this isn't Porsche's problem one bit!
Old 12-25-2020, 02:27 AM
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To be fair, I don't think they are claiming this to be a warranty issue. More of a goodwill issue. Has Porsche warned owners not to tint the LW glass? If not, that was a mistake on their part. Many owners, particularly in hotter climates, tint their windows as a rule. If the rules have changed, Porsche is obligated to inform us.

Now if Porsche did warn not to tint these types of windows, then ok. You pay to play.
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