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Old 04-27-2021 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvanpelt729
Haha I appreciate thinking the wallet is the issue. "Here's a $130k car that you can't keep you wallet in your pocket when you drive"
Depends on how thick your wallet is..... $$$$$$$ = thicker wallet. $$ = thinner wallet. I suspect most Porsche owners have the former.
Old 04-27-2021 | 02:36 PM
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Side bolster crease most likely handled with the same bulletin.........leather is from different hides, its natural, etc.....blah blah blah....
Old 04-27-2021 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Benedict14
Its not just the 992. From the Cayenne forum. Multiple cases of the Porsche droop. It seems obvious that it’s a manufacturing defect. Same location, and same pattern in all cases.




https://rennlist.com/forums/rennlist....php?t=1210731
Funny, they prob should change it to the VAG Droop. I had that exact same issue very early on with my Golf R MK7. Dealership had to get VAG Canada involved and they ended up replacing the leather.
Old 04-27-2021 | 10:43 PM
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As noted up thread, I have seen stories that the cooled seats are also less comfortable than the non cooled ones, because of a membrane installed in the seat bottom for the cooling. Since the cooled seat is part of the premium package, some bloggers were saying to break those other options out individually to avoid the cooled seat, even if it costs more.
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Old 04-28-2021 | 10:37 PM
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I agree ventilated seats feel harder than those without that feature. But mine softened enough after a few months and were fine even on longer drives. One benefit of the ventilated seat may be less sagging. I had 2018 Boxster with ventilated 14 ways which I just sold and the ventilated seats had virtually no sagging. I did get some holes clogged with schmutz occasionally but that blast of cool air on my backside on hot days made it worthwhile and why I included them in my C2S manual build, which is due at my dealer on June 6.
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Old 04-29-2021 | 07:15 AM
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Old 04-29-2021 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CodyBigdog
Bingo, we have a winner.
My 991.2 has heated and ventilated seats and they do no sag.

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Old 04-29-2021 | 12:19 PM
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How is all this even acceptable on a $150k+ car?
My M3 with 60k KM on it has perfectly tight, smooth side bolsters and seat bottoms.

Clearly Porsche is penny-pinching here, likely as a volume group buy or design with others in the VAG group.
I agree we should be allowed to de-couple features like ventilated seats from the Premium package, without penalty.

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Old 07-20-2021 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 992Sam
keep us posted please... This should lead to a recall if it happens this often.... $3500 optional seats, plus the cost of optional leather... I expect perfect.
so I just realized my driver seat is also beginning to show some strange wrinkling at 18K miles...

Has anyone had any luck getting the dealer to repair / replace this under warranty?
Old 07-21-2021 | 09:29 AM
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20k kilometres now, no sagging no wrinkling. Seats are 18-ways with heat but no cooling.
Old 07-22-2021 | 07:48 AM
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I have had the leather seat covering replaced due to a manufacturing defect from when the car was delivered (bad seam). The first one sent from Germany didn’t fit (apparently takes a day to install as entire seat needs to be removed from car). So they took everything apart to find out it didn’t work. Waited another 4 weeks for a replacement and now having issues with that one (both install and quality). My recommendation is if it doesn’t impact comfort of seat leave it alone, just not worth the hassle (mine did impact comfort of seat as the seam was sticking out and you felt it & that side of seat still doesn’t feel right after replacement).
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Old 07-22-2021 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by gcurnew
20k kilometres now, no sagging no wrinkling. Seats are 18-ways with heat but no cooling.
I thought 18 ways came with heating and cooling together, and they couldn't be decoupled.

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Old 07-22-2021 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikster
I thought 18 ways came with heating and cooling together, and they couldn't be decoupled.

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In Europe you can have heating or, heating and cooling together but not just cooling.

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Old 07-22-2021 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikster
I thought 18 ways came with heating and cooling together, and they couldn't be decoupled.

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All 2020 Canadian 992s got heated seats standard. My 18-ways have heat but no cooling.

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Old 07-22-2021 | 07:53 PM
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Not that many people have weighed in on this issue. Could those with 18 way ventilated seats advise if your seats have this problem? It will also help to advise when you got your car, as it is possible that Porsche has already addressed the problem in production.


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