992 Saggy Seat Bottoms
#46
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Bump on this thread. Is anybody still seeing this?
I currently have 14-way with Black/beige on order, and thinking maybe Sport Tex. My only concern with Sport Tex is the summer heat.
I currently have 14-way with Black/beige on order, and thinking maybe Sport Tex. My only concern with Sport Tex is the summer heat.
#47
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I'm coming up to 6500 miles on my C4S with 18 ways and full leather. I don't experience it anymore.
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#48
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#49
Use something like Colourlock leather shield to protect the leather from dirt. Or in emergency cases, you can just use a damp MF towel to wipe the stains off in a matter of seconds.
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#51
Three Wheelin'
4200 miles on my perforated / air-conditioned seats and no sag yet.. I weigh 190lbs
#52
Drifting
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#53
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I had that issue on my 2016 991.1 turbo after a couple years, very well could be the wallet. I switched to a LV thin wallet (after a lot of pressure from my wife and daughters) and will see how it goes in my 2020 992 Cab S.
#54
Burning Brakes
Wouldn't be happy about it either in my 992, but it happened with GT2 Sport Buckets I had in a 997.2 GTS. Wasn't a lot of padding in those seats either and the rear part of the seat bottom showed similar "sagginess." Fixed it in 15 minutes with a 1500 watt hair drier on high (could also have used a heat gun on low). Used the same technique to tighten up the leather on a 4-way Sport Plus seat.
Can you tell us about the technique?
#55
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Sure. While heating with the hair dryer, I "massaged" the seat, flattening out the puckers. The heat will naturally contract the leather, but you need to be careful to make sure the heat is applied evenly, and you go slowly. The Sport Plus seats took about 15 minutes to fix, and the problem never returned. On my GT2 seats, I needed to repeat the process after 6 more months of use, likely due to my worries about overdoing it the first time (the GT2 seat inserts are a whole lot flimsier than normal 911 seats...I'd go so far as to call them cheap). After the second treatment the wrinkles never returned.
Here's an example of a wrinkled seat fixed by simply applying heat...it's a heat gun, so the process goes pretty quickly; using a hair dryer takes longer but removes the risk of damaging/burning the leather. This video lets the heat gun do the work; the "massaging" is my add to ensure the seat doesn't get over-heated and is "contracted" evenly. Scoot ahead to 2:10 in the video for the wrinkle removal (first part of the video is steam cleaning).
https://www.google.com/search?q=usin...bT-gSU8ry4BA38
ADDED: I’d be leery of attempting this fix with ventilated seats without first removing an insert and determining whether a) there is actually (as reported) a membrane between the seat leather and the foam and, b) if heating the seat from above would damage/deform the membrane in any way.
Here's an example of a wrinkled seat fixed by simply applying heat...it's a heat gun, so the process goes pretty quickly; using a hair dryer takes longer but removes the risk of damaging/burning the leather. This video lets the heat gun do the work; the "massaging" is my add to ensure the seat doesn't get over-heated and is "contracted" evenly. Scoot ahead to 2:10 in the video for the wrinkle removal (first part of the video is steam cleaning).
https://www.google.com/search?q=usin...bT-gSU8ry4BA38
ADDED: I’d be leery of attempting this fix with ventilated seats without first removing an insert and determining whether a) there is actually (as reported) a membrane between the seat leather and the foam and, b) if heating the seat from above would damage/deform the membrane in any way.
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#56
Burning Brakes
Excellent thanks!!
#57
Three Wheelin'
I can't remember the last time I sat down with a wallet in my rear pocket... it always comes out before I sit and is put down somewhere close by.. in the case of the car, the door pockets or seat next to me.
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#60
Burning Brakes
What is it like to remove the leather from the seat bottom in order to replace the foam?