992 manual vs. PDK
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Someone who wants to buy a 911, but doesn't know or want to drive a MT, will not even consider a MT car.
Someone who wants to buy a 911, but prefers a MT, will obviously consider a MT car in addition to all the PDK cars out there.
So that right there might explain the difference in resale values of MT v. PDKs.
Now, one might say, that those that want a MT 911, will not buy any 911 that comes with a PDK. Perhaps, but I think that universe of buyers is very very small.
In our little fishbowl here on RL, people spout off and say a lot of things ("this is my last 911 ever, I intend to drive this thing until the dash falls off because it's the last MT blah blah blah"), but when push comes to shove how many people in real life would completely forgo a 911 simply because it did not have a MT?
Sure, there might be a few (most of whom I bet are on RL), but I think the number is going to be very very small.
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While this debate is raging, I went to the configurator to build a manual 992. I was disappointed to find that you can't add PDCC, RAS, or PASM without the configurator forcing PDK on. Is this how it's going to be?
My 991.2 is PDK. My 992 will be manual - unless the other options flat aren't able to be combined with it. In which case I'm not sure. I'll keep my 991.
My 991.2 is PDK. My 992 will be manual - unless the other options flat aren't able to be combined with it. In which case I'm not sure. I'll keep my 991.
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PASM is standard, and great in itself. SPASM is worthless IMO, you get a stiffer ride and the car is lowered 10mm. Wow.
Not to mention RAS. They don't allow 4 wheel steering on IMSA race cars or the likes of any other circuit racing. Why does everyone want those options? Some of the options seem to be really gimmicky IMO. Slapping on another $6k-$7k.
The only option I'd opt for is PDCC.
Not to mention RAS. They don't allow 4 wheel steering on IMSA race cars or the likes of any other circuit racing. Why does everyone want those options? Some of the options seem to be really gimmicky IMO. Slapping on another $6k-$7k.
The only option I'd opt for is PDCC.
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PASM is standard, and great in itself. SPASM is worthless IMO, you get a stiffer ride and the car is lowered 10mm. Wow.
Not to mention RAS. They don't allow 4 wheel steering on IMSA race cars or the likes of any other circuit racing. Why does everyone want those options? Some of the options seem to be really gimmicky IMO. Slapping on another $6k-$7k.
The only option I'd opt for is PDCC.
Not to mention RAS. They don't allow 4 wheel steering on IMSA race cars or the likes of any other circuit racing. Why does everyone want those options? Some of the options seem to be really gimmicky IMO. Slapping on another $6k-$7k.
The only option I'd opt for is PDCC.
I like the lower appearance, saves me from going the mod route to lower it myself. I don't mind the stiffer ride. And I *love* RAS. Substantially improves everyday driving in a very noticeable way.
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From: ^ Laguna Seca
Definitely just my opinion. Dont mean to cause any offense. I just have a different view towards certain options that are offered. PDCC is good. PCCBs are great! 👍🏻
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From: ^ Laguna Seca
Just another money grab by Porsche. You want PDCC, gotta get RAS
Last edited by smiles11; Nov 4, 2019 at 06:07 PM.
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From: ^ Laguna Seca
PCCB over stock brakes are significantly better in terms of braking performance. If you only looked at them to get cleaner wheels, then probably best you didnt spec them in.
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In terms of braking performance, they're more consistent, but afaik most people that track their cars prefer conventional brakes, because of the exorbitant costs in replacing rotors/pads, cracking issues, etc.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/24/...r-race-tracks/
Anyway -- that's what's so great about having choices -- to each their own.
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From: ^ Laguna Seca
Well .. they're lighter, that's certainly true; whether you can feel the difference is up for debate. Speaking for myself, I don't think I can, but then I've never driven the same exact car back to back with and without PCCB. The only car I've ever owned that had them was an Aston DBS.
In terms of braking performance, they're more consistent, but afaik most people that track their cars prefer conventional brakes, because of the exorbitant costs in replacing rotors/pads, cracking issues, etc.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/24/...r-race-tracks/
Anyway -- that's what's so great about having choices -- to each their own.
In terms of braking performance, they're more consistent, but afaik most people that track their cars prefer conventional brakes, because of the exorbitant costs in replacing rotors/pads, cracking issues, etc.
https://www.autoblog.com/2019/03/24/...r-race-tracks/
Anyway -- that's what's so great about having choices -- to each their own.
I had a chance to drive a couple 992 C2S at the dealer. One had all the options (PCCB, SPASM, RAS, PDCC).. After driving both, the only thing I had found certain. The PCCB brakes were incredible! The rest of the options in comparison were negligible at best.
I do suggest trying them out back-to-back if you can. It's worth the hour or two of daylight.
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While this debate is raging, I went to the configurator to build a manual 992. I was disappointed to find that you can't add PDCC, RAS, or PASM without the configurator forcing PDK on. Is this how it's going to be?
My 991.2 is PDK. My 992 will be manual - unless the other options flat aren't able to be combined with it. In which case I'm not sure. I'll keep my 991.
My 991.2 is PDK. My 992 will be manual - unless the other options flat aren't able to be combined with it. In which case I'm not sure. I'll keep my 991.
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I would take a manual with 20 speeds over a PDK. Do a search on the 991 Forum and see what those with the 7MT say, like me. There are always exceptions but if you are even debating which one to get you will be bored with the PDK so get the manual, and if it bothers you do not use 6 & 7 and you will love it.
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While this debate is raging, I went to the configurator to build a manual 992. I was disappointed to find that you can't add PDCC, RAS, or PASM without the configurator forcing PDK on. Is this how it's going to be?
My 991.2 is PDK. My 992 will be manual - unless the other options flat aren't able to be combined with it. In which case I'm not sure. I'll keep my 991.
My 991.2 is PDK. My 992 will be manual - unless the other options flat aren't able to be combined with it. In which case I'm not sure. I'll keep my 991.
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Originally Posted by kayjh
My advice? Go drive the car with a PDK now and with a manual when one arrives and decide which you like better. I think that is the best advice you can receive here.
I bought a 2017 911 C4 with a sport exhaust because everyone on this forum and the dealer told me it was the way to go and I would get killed on resale without it. I didn't like the drone and got rid of the car. I got killed on resale, even with it.
Who really knows better what you will like more than you? As for resale, based on my experience, buy what makes you happy, not what will maximize resale.
I bought a 2017 911 C4 with a sport exhaust because everyone on this forum and the dealer told me it was the way to go and I would get killed on resale without it. I didn't like the drone and got rid of the car. I got killed on resale, even with it.
Who really knows better what you will like more than you? As for resale, based on my experience, buy what makes you happy, not what will maximize resale.