992 Winter Wheels/Tires
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I've done separate winter wheel sets for my sports cars for about 25 years. There are quite a few benefits.
With plummeting temperatures, I am doing my winter wheel swap tomorrow. My 992 is going in for its third scheduled service and it makes sense to take care of it one shot. This will be my 5th seasonal wheel swap on this car.
- Having a separate set of wheels makes the twice a year swap easy and/or cheap.
- You can run different sizes for the winter to give you a little more sidewall -- some cars benefit from a narrower setup as well.
- Running with different offsets in the winter can help keep the winter road debris within the wheel wells.
- Wheels can get a bit more abuse in the winter and in some cases, can be sacrificial.
- If you find moving your wheel sets around to be a hassle, most shops will offer to store your wheels for the season at a modest/no cost.
- Swapping tires on/off the same rims isn't great for the tire and increases the likelihood of some cosmetic damage to your rims -- a dedicated winter wheel set avoids these issues.
- You've got an emergency set of wheels/tires in the event you get an unrepairable flat and a replacement isn't readily available -- a very real issue with the supply chain times that we live in.
- If you opted for Porsche's wheel/tire insurance, it applies to both sets of wheels/tires.
With plummeting temperatures, I am doing my winter wheel swap tomorrow. My 992 is going in for its third scheduled service and it makes sense to take care of it one shot. This will be my 5th seasonal wheel swap on this car.
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I've done separate winter wheel sets for my sports cars for about 25 years. There are quite a few benefits.
With plummeting temperatures, I am doing my winter wheel swap tomorrow. My 992 is going in for its third scheduled service and it makes sense to take care of it one shot. This will be my 5th seasonal wheel swap on this car.
- Having a separate set of wheels makes the twice a year swap easy and/or cheap. agreed
- You can run different sizes for the winter to give you a little more sidewall -- some cars benefit from a narrower setup as well. for sure
- Running with different offsets in the winter can help keep the winter road debris within the wheel wells.
- Wheels can get a bit more abuse in the winter and in some cases, can be sacrificial. agreed
- If you find moving your wheel sets around to be a hassle, most shops will offer to store your wheels for the season at a modest/no cost. hmm. it can be quite the hassle for a whole set lugging them up and down.
- Swapping tires on/off the same rims isn't great for the tire and increases the likelihood of some cosmetic damage to your rims -- a dedicated winter wheel set avoids these issues. if you have the Porsche coverage and the dealer does it, should not be an issue, except possibly for the tire aspect.
- You've got an emergency set of wheels/tires in the event you get an unrepairable flat and a replacement isn't readily available -- a very real issue with the supply chain times that we live in. quite true.
- If you opted for Porsche's wheel/tire insurance, it applies to both sets of wheels/tires. hmm. I did opt for it but only got winter tires, not wheels.
With plummeting temperatures, I am doing my winter wheel swap tomorrow. My 992 is going in for its third scheduled service and it makes sense to take care of it one shot. This will be my 5th seasonal wheel swap on this car.
Now I have always done the full set such as yourself dating back to 2001. 20 years. But for these I opted for just tires. So we will see how that turns out. But I don't think it really is cheaper to get the other set in this instance.
But I am also using the dealer for the swaps and have the tire and rim coverage from my purchase, so hopefully that covers me on all points.
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I think that
a) my dealer quoted me the 305s in the rear which are considerably ($200+ each) more expensive. I didn't know about the 295s and he didn't tell me that was an option (well I knew, but didn't think they were the right size)
b) your dealer did all the work for about $228 - which is unheard of and you are VERY lucky. The dealer I ended up getting my snow wheel/tire set from wanted $249 just to swap them! And that's just taking four wheels off and putting four wheels on! You got yours installed and balanced for $228!!! Amazing.
c) your dealer rocks
a) my dealer quoted me the 305s in the rear which are considerably ($200+ each) more expensive. I didn't know about the 295s and he didn't tell me that was an option (well I knew, but didn't think they were the right size)
b) your dealer did all the work for about $228 - which is unheard of and you are VERY lucky. The dealer I ended up getting my snow wheel/tire set from wanted $249 just to swap them! And that's just taking four wheels off and putting four wheels on! You got yours installed and balanced for $228!!! Amazing.
c) your dealer rocks
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Not sure about the 2-3 swaps. Winter tires were $1920 installed w. tax. Porsche charges over $4k (probably close to $5k with tax, etc.) for the 19/20 set, and $6k after tax for the 20/21 Carrera S wheel set. That is $3000-4000 over and above my tires. The $1920 included install. It will be $200 to swap the summers back on at the dealer. It would take me 7.5 years (15 swaps starting in 2022 spring) to spend $3k swapping. 10 years if you are opting for the more expensive set. And by then you would need to replace your tires regardless of which route you go.
Now I have always done the full set such as yourself dating back to 2001. 20 years. But for these I opted for just tires. So we will see how that turns out. But I don't think it really is cheaper to get the other set in this instance.
But I am also using the dealer for the swaps and have the tire and rim coverage from my purchase, so hopefully that covers me on all points.
Now I have always done the full set such as yourself dating back to 2001. 20 years. But for these I opted for just tires. So we will see how that turns out. But I don't think it really is cheaper to get the other set in this instance.
But I am also using the dealer for the swaps and have the tire and rim coverage from my purchase, so hopefully that covers me on all points.
If your Porsche dealer is only charging you $50/wheel for mount and balance, that's a pretty good deal and a good bit cheaper than what others are paying. If you're not OCD about weight marks/scratches and comfortable with your wheels seeing the winter road hazards, sure. Even at your mount/balance pricing, I'm break even by my spring swap and have a complete extra set of wheels to show for it.
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I spent over 6000 for the Carrera S winter wheel set in black.
Several reasons I went this route.
1. I could not find snow tires NOW and it was mid October. With a concern for possible snow in early November, I was in rush.
2. Carrying all 4 tires to dealer or Costco 2 times per year to swap out, pay for the swap job, wait, carrying them back, etc... was a bit of hassle.
3. I think that I can always resell the winter wheel set if I need to.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
BTW, do most of you guys do the wheel swap at the dealer? Any reason for this?
I was planning to do is by myself unless I'm missing out something.
Several reasons I went this route.
1. I could not find snow tires NOW and it was mid October. With a concern for possible snow in early November, I was in rush.
2. Carrying all 4 tires to dealer or Costco 2 times per year to swap out, pay for the swap job, wait, carrying them back, etc... was a bit of hassle.
3. I think that I can always resell the winter wheel set if I need to.
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BTW, do most of you guys do the wheel swap at the dealer? Any reason for this?
I was planning to do is by myself unless I'm missing out something.
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$400/swap $800/year? My dealer quoted me $200/swap or $400/year. At the dealer!
Got Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 winters put on my 20/21 Carrera Classics today by the dealer. $339 each for the fronts 245/35/R20. $447 each for the rears 295/30/R21. With install and tax it came to $1920. $120 of that was tax.
Got Michelin Pilot Alpin 5 winters put on my 20/21 Carrera Classics today by the dealer. $339 each for the fronts 245/35/R20. $447 each for the rears 295/30/R21. With install and tax it came to $1920. $120 of that was tax.
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I spent over 6000 for the Carrera S winter wheel set in black.
Several reasons I went this route.
1. I could not find snow tires NOW and it was mid October. With a concern for possible snow in early November, I was in rush.
2. Carrying all 4 tires to dealer or Costco 2 times per year to swap out, pay for the swap job, wait, carrying them back, etc... was a bit of hassle.
3. I think that I can always resell the winter wheel set if I need to.![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
BTW, do most of you guys do the wheel swap at the dealer? Any reason for this?
I was planning to do is by myself unless I'm missing out something.
Several reasons I went this route.
1. I could not find snow tires NOW and it was mid October. With a concern for possible snow in early November, I was in rush.
2. Carrying all 4 tires to dealer or Costco 2 times per year to swap out, pay for the swap job, wait, carrying them back, etc... was a bit of hassle.
3. I think that I can always resell the winter wheel set if I need to.
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
BTW, do most of you guys do the wheel swap at the dealer? Any reason for this?
I was planning to do is by myself unless I'm missing out something.
I'm 71 and do all my vehicles, oil/fluid etc. changes twice a year as well as all other work. If there's stuff (like recently replaced a faulty rear tail light on the wife's Macan, or doing an SRI on a friend's Q7) where a lift is more convenient, I have friend with a garage I can borrow time on his ramp after hours. So to answer your question, the only thing you'll miss by going to the dealer is your $$$
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Of note - for others, my 19/20 winter wheel setup was $4,000 (a $500 discount) plus tax and... of course THE DAMN CENTER CAPS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED. So I think I'm at $4,500 all in on my winter set.
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Why would you want to buy spare center caps??????????????????? you can only use 4 tires at one time. Reuse the ones from the wheels you just took off ...
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https://www.suncoastparts.com/product/992CCAPS.html
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Talk about a cash cow. I was always able to swap center caps on my other vehicles as to my 20/21" OZ winter rims they came with the center caps, but they look the same as my spider OEM center caps. Wow, learn something every day, thanks for setting me straight! ![thumbup](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/thumbup.gif)
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You must have ordered at the perfect time. I inquired about Michelin snows last Thursday and was told by Prestige that the Michelin rear tires were on backorder. Parts is getting me Conti's instead. Definitely prefer the Michelins although the reviews for the Conti's were not bad.
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OMG........ the "horror of it all" (extra credit for those who can name the movie)
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I was just debating ordering these as well. How do you like them? I've seen in other post about the warranty potentially being void. Have you heard anything from Porsche about this? I sent them a message but didn't hear back yet. The rolling diameters are under 1% different vs stock but who knows what Porsche's official policy is.
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, mine are 245/35R-20 and 295/30R-21 on OZ Leggera HLT GLS Black rims. Will be putting them on next month when I do my winter changeover and services on all my vehicles.
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