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Old 07-31-2019, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by destaccado
I'm pretty sure there's almost no one on the planet who wants a manual transmission and would choose an automatic instead were a 7-speed not available and a 6-speed was all that was offered.

On the same hand, there's numerous people - myself included - who would choose the automatic over the 7-speed in-spite of how good it supposedly is.

The 7-speed isn't for driver enjoyment or raw performance - it's for the bean-counters and their CO2 / fuel consumption ratings.

I'm happy to hear that it's still a good transmission and you're enjoying it in-spite of that fact. However, my point remains, I believe Porsche is selling less manual transmission cars than they would if a 6-speed was offered. On their best performing cars they only offer the 6-speed. If I'm wrong, why is that?
I really don't see your issue with 7 gears over 6....don't use 7th. Ratios are closer together making the car more driveable. Think I read that one problem with the last GT4 was that the ratios were too far apart for N/A engine in normal city driving. So whats with 8speed PDK? is that evil too?
I don't follow your logic.
Old 07-31-2019, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 911boy
I really don't see your issue with 7 gears over 6....don't use 7th.
The most common complaint I've heard is people saying the spacing of the gears (gates), not the ratios, is the issue. Going from 2nd and hitting 5th instead of 3rd, going from 5th and hitting 2nd instead of 4th, etc. Most say they get used to it.

Heck, I drove to PEC Atl to test a 7MT Carrera T because I couldn't find a single 7MT to test anywhere else. In track or leisure driving (on the track) I never had a single issue with the transmission. Didn't miss a single gear change and never once had to consciously think about hitting a shift. I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
Old 07-31-2019, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by CaymanSinAR
The most common complaint I've heard is people saying the spacing of the gears (gates), not the ratios, is the issue. Going from 2nd and hitting 5th instead of 3rd, going from 5th and hitting 2nd instead of 4th, etc. Most say they get used to it.

Heck, I drove to PEC Atl to test a 7MT Carrera T because I couldn't find a single 7MT to test anywhere else. In track or leisure driving (on the track) I never had a single issue with the transmission. Didn't miss a single gear change and never once had to consciously think about hitting a shift. I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
Interesting. I haven't jumped a gear yet (3 years) . Haven't heard that.
Old 07-31-2019, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CaymanSinAR
I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
The 7 MT is also great in the 991.2 base C2. Into and out of 7th is no problem. It's a fine gearbox.

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Old 07-31-2019, 02:33 PM
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Judging from the responses to this thread, the number of manual drivers who hate the 7 speed gearbox numbers exactly one. And that one hasn't lived with a 7 speed for years like many of us have. It's time to end this debate.
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Old 08-01-2019, 06:52 AM
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My 997.2 was 6speed manual and my 991.2 is 7speed manual; I hope my 992 can be had with manual transmission too.
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Old 08-01-2019, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by py0413
My 997.2 was 6speed manual and my 991.2 is 7speed manual; I hope my 992 can be had with manual transmission too.
Amen to that!

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Old 08-01-2019, 08:46 AM
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7 speed in my Carrera T is awesome. Maybe the best manual ever and I've had S2000, 997 Rs, and many others!
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Old 08-02-2019, 03:48 PM
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Anyone who's complaining about the 7 speed MT either has forgotten about or never driven a pre 1987 911.
Old 08-02-2019, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by limegreen
Anyone who's complaining about the 7 speed MT either has forgotten about or never driven a pre 1987 911.
My very vague recollection of my 1971 911T--purchased new--is that its gearbox was fine...emphasis on vague!

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Old 08-02-2019, 09:46 PM
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Just chiming in to say that I love the 7MT on my T, and would take it over PDK any day.
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Old 08-02-2019, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hinckley
I'm sure China represents a majority market share for Porsche overall, but do know whether that holds true for the 911 more specially? I can see huge Macan, Cayenne and Panny sales there, but I'm just not so sure that's true for the brand's sports cars as well.

EDIT: After a bit of online sleuthing . . . in 2017, Porsche sold 8,970 911s in the US, 7,500 in Germany, and 1,674 in China. This article says that the 911 is considered a "women's car" there because of its "compact proportions." China did see a bigger increase in 911 sales in 2018 though, with sales increasing to 1,992 (+19%) units, compared to 9,647 (+7.5%) units in the US.
In 2018 911 sales in US were 9647 and Europe was 17057.
Old 08-03-2019, 02:45 AM
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According to EVO-X on here, and two Porsche dealers I spoke to; Manual Transmission will be avail Q1 2020. Does that mean the car will have to go through EPA/Carb cert? If so, are we looking spring 2020 for realistic delivery dates?
Old 08-03-2019, 10:11 AM
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Will the manual ever show up? 50/50 it would seem.
Old 08-03-2019, 10:25 AM
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Any spy pics of the manual gear shift center console, yet?


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