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#46
Three Wheelin'
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I'm pretty sure there's almost no one on the planet who wants a manual transmission and would choose an automatic instead were a 7-speed not available and a 6-speed was all that was offered.
On the same hand, there's numerous people - myself included - who would choose the automatic over the 7-speed in-spite of how good it supposedly is.
The 7-speed isn't for driver enjoyment or raw performance - it's for the bean-counters and their CO2 / fuel consumption ratings.
I'm happy to hear that it's still a good transmission and you're enjoying it in-spite of that fact. However, my point remains, I believe Porsche is selling less manual transmission cars than they would if a 6-speed was offered. On their best performing cars they only offer the 6-speed. If I'm wrong, why is that?
On the same hand, there's numerous people - myself included - who would choose the automatic over the 7-speed in-spite of how good it supposedly is.
The 7-speed isn't for driver enjoyment or raw performance - it's for the bean-counters and their CO2 / fuel consumption ratings.
I'm happy to hear that it's still a good transmission and you're enjoying it in-spite of that fact. However, my point remains, I believe Porsche is selling less manual transmission cars than they would if a 6-speed was offered. On their best performing cars they only offer the 6-speed. If I'm wrong, why is that?
I don't follow your logic.
#47
The most common complaint I've heard is people saying the spacing of the gears (gates), not the ratios, is the issue. Going from 2nd and hitting 5th instead of 3rd, going from 5th and hitting 2nd instead of 4th, etc. Most say they get used to it.
Heck, I drove to PEC Atl to test a 7MT Carrera T because I couldn't find a single 7MT to test anywhere else. In track or leisure driving (on the track) I never had a single issue with the transmission. Didn't miss a single gear change and never once had to consciously think about hitting a shift. I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
Heck, I drove to PEC Atl to test a 7MT Carrera T because I couldn't find a single 7MT to test anywhere else. In track or leisure driving (on the track) I never had a single issue with the transmission. Didn't miss a single gear change and never once had to consciously think about hitting a shift. I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
#48
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
The most common complaint I've heard is people saying the spacing of the gears (gates), not the ratios, is the issue. Going from 2nd and hitting 5th instead of 3rd, going from 5th and hitting 2nd instead of 4th, etc. Most say they get used to it.
Heck, I drove to PEC Atl to test a 7MT Carrera T because I couldn't find a single 7MT to test anywhere else. In track or leisure driving (on the track) I never had a single issue with the transmission. Didn't miss a single gear change and never once had to consciously think about hitting a shift. I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
Heck, I drove to PEC Atl to test a 7MT Carrera T because I couldn't find a single 7MT to test anywhere else. In track or leisure driving (on the track) I never had a single issue with the transmission. Didn't miss a single gear change and never once had to consciously think about hitting a shift. I walked away in love with the 7MT as found in the T. That being said, I never made it past 5th gear, so I can't speak to shifting into or out of 7th, which could very well have been troublesome.
#50
Judging from the responses to this thread, the number of manual drivers who hate the 7 speed gearbox numbers exactly one. And that one hasn't lived with a 7 speed for years like many of us have. It's time to end this debate.
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#53
7 speed in my Carrera T is awesome. Maybe the best manual ever and I've had S2000, 997 Rs, and many others!
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#57
I'm sure China represents a majority market share for Porsche overall, but do know whether that holds true for the 911 more specially? I can see huge Macan, Cayenne and Panny sales there, but I'm just not so sure that's true for the brand's sports cars as well.
EDIT: After a bit of online sleuthing . . . in 2017, Porsche sold 8,970 911s in the US, 7,500 in Germany, and 1,674 in China. This article says that the 911 is considered a "women's car" there because of its "compact proportions." China did see a bigger increase in 911 sales in 2018 though, with sales increasing to 1,992 (+19%) units, compared to 9,647 (+7.5%) units in the US.
EDIT: After a bit of online sleuthing . . . in 2017, Porsche sold 8,970 911s in the US, 7,500 in Germany, and 1,674 in China. This article says that the 911 is considered a "women's car" there because of its "compact proportions." China did see a bigger increase in 911 sales in 2018 though, with sales increasing to 1,992 (+19%) units, compared to 9,647 (+7.5%) units in the US.
#58
According to EVO-X on here, and two Porsche dealers I spoke to; Manual Transmission will be avail Q1 2020. Does that mean the car will have to go through EPA/Carb cert? If so, are we looking spring 2020 for realistic delivery dates?
#59
Will the manual ever show up? 50/50 it would seem.
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Any spy pics of the manual gear shift center console, yet?