STG

I don't get it either. Very sensitive snow flakey personalities these days. The Vette and Hellcat owners must get a kick out of some of the sensitive Porsche fans.

LexVan

Funny that you make this analogy, since RR liked to post pictures of his gun(s), too. Say "hello" or RR from the RL gang. I'm sure you know him well.

djcxxx

rcristobal

Looks like Bart. Still not feeling the 992 in base and light colors. SD front is an improvement.

stout

Agree, and prefer the 981/991 cupholders in every way except for the seams they leave, their only downside in my view. Don't know as they would have worked with the new dash architecture.

To your question, yes: In the glovebox of our test car was a simple cubby—you pull the cupholder out and slip the cubby in its place. Oddly, you don't need to, as the hole left by removing either is fairly well done and has a rubber mat at the bottom. When I asked why bother with the cubby, I was told that the locking tabs were ugly (which I had spotted, but might choose to live with). And I wondered if these could have been hidden better, so no separate cubby was needed. But, the big upside: Instead of the useless cubby in the 991 if you didn't order the smoking package is a cubby that is ideally sized for a smart phone—something I have never found a great place to store in my 991. Of course, you then have to choose between that storage and a cupholder...and I am very curious about how the central cupholder will work with a manual gearbox. Maybe Porsche will offer a 918-style cupholder that plugs into the side of the revised 7MT console? Time will tell…


Panamera shifter? Better or not, I can hear the howling now…

Yep, and there will be others who miss it, too. My mourning is limited, as I prefer three pedals on the street. Doesn't mean I don't feel for ya!

My biggest beef with the new shifter is that RND are on it, but not P, which is a separate button. This caught me out a couple of times on the test drives when I went to park the thing. Yeah, I know I would get used to it—but that doesn't mean it's intuitive. Worse, P and M (manual mode) are buttons with no hierarchy. I would have preferred P on the nubbin (as a button or a position) and a bit more occasion to selecting M.

On the upside: The moved the parking brake out of its infernal position on the 981/991. I'd still prefer a lever, but I suspect designers may not want anything sticking up in the interior when the car is parked.

^ The way I would have gone at this point—especially if it offered a chance to make the center console smaller.

Yep. In a strange way, it is form following function.

Like smoking, alcohol, and speeding, then.

^ Great thoughts to chew on above! And there is something to this, with each car and each person. I once quoted a passage from Car and Driver on the latest Porsche. Sounded like they were talking about a 964, or 993, or 996. It was a test on the new 356B, lamenting losses in driver involvement in exchange for greater refinement. To your points above, some would say the 1973 911 was the last, or the 1989 3.2, or the 1994 964, or…

It also kind of reminds me of all the harping on the 918 when it was new, with all the experts saying that they'd like to try the car without the hybrid gear. This I found interesting, as that would just be another Miura, F50, Elise, etc. In other words, we'd been down that road (mid-engined, RWD, two-seater) in myriad configurations over five decades. I don't pine for a 918 in the way I do a CGT, but I like it in the way I like the 959: It explored new avenues, and brought with it technology that improved subsequent cars. The 991 GT2 RS—and 992—are among them. Calibration know-how is just one example.

stout

Now, back to the spirit of this thread. I can state that I haaaaaaaate the new exterior door handles. My hand slipped off twice when it mattered, and the 991.2 handles were finally perfection after all the plastic plug-in units from the 996 > 991.1.

STG

I thought they cleaned up the design nicely on 991.2 as well.

Can see that new ones having some issues down the line. Seem kinda trendy and been done by others.

Thanks for taking the time for other detailed write ups in the age of YouTube reviewers. I may see some things differently, but appreciate well written commentary and can respect that. Not everyone who disagrees with someone is a troll.

911boy

Sad/embarrassing.

Archimedes

Since this is the hate thread, I'll just keep saying it. That is one ugly car.

STG

I agree!! I'm sure the marketing dept shares your opinion.

STG

Chris Harris mentioned in his video there was pretty loud wind noise or whistling? When windows were up. Think he mentioned the mirrors? Said it wasn't as noticeable with the music up. LOL.

* all from memory. Didn't rewatch the video.

911boy

They probably couldn't care any less due to the tone etc.

STG

They probably have better self control than you to click on a thread with such a sad title and content.

911boy

Good point. pathetic.

STG

No the kind of thread one wants to hang out in and participate in. Can give one a "troll" reputation and on the radar of the RL hit men.