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Old 06-06-2024, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CM991

What is creating confusion here is the assumption that the vehicle spied with the touring package is the new RWD Turbo with a manual. The vehicle has the hybrid decal (is this a potential decoy?). If it’s in fact a hybrid, it could be the new TTS sporting a yet to be released Touring package.

It could also be the manual Turbo and the hybrid system is limited only to the eTurbo and not the transmission?
Doubt it's a decoy tbh. Don't think they would play such games but who knows.

Also doubt the TTS would come with touring package as they need the side vents for cooling what's likely going to be 750+ bhp car.
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Quick question related to this new model refresh:

If I were to get an allocation right now, would it be for the existing 992 TT/TTS models that are all-ICE and feature AWD?

How much longer, if at all, are allocations for the existing TT/TTS going to be given out and when will the changeover occur for the new models?
Old 06-06-2024, 02:25 PM
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The current car is already so fast that a 20% throttle application for brief 3 seconds and you are in well excess of going to jail speeds. I just dont understand the point of this power in a TTS.
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Old 06-06-2024, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
The current car is already so fast that a 20% throttle application for brief 3 seconds and you are in well excess of going to jail speeds. I just dont understand the point of this power in a TTS.
I agree, it takes a lot of planning to safely floor this car, I always drive in M using the paddles and it’s hard not hitting the rev limiter when you get on it, I have to remember to go to Auto to prevent hitting the rev limiter.

A manual transmission in this car would be stupid unless they reduce the power by at least 25% and/or increase the redline to at least 8,500 rpm.

I think we know that’s not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by 992.Turbo.S
I agree, it takes a lot of planning to safely floor this car, I always drive in M using the paddles and it’s hard not hitting the rev limiter when you get on it, I have to remember to go to Auto to prevent hitting the rev limiter.

A manual transmission in this car would be stupid unless they reduce the power by at least 25% and increase the redline to at least 8,500 rpm.

I think we know that’s not going to happen.
I think the Sport Classic did just fine.
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
I think the Sport Classic did just fine.
Sport Classic had less power and torque than the 992 Turbo
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Originally Posted by 992.Turbo.S
Sport Classic had less power and torque than the 992 Turbo
Right, and I assume the same deal here - they already made the mold and proved it could sell. The new Turbo S is going to be the big power PDK car and Turbo slots in at just above GTS power levels with a manual.

I think it would be a good strategy.

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Also the 7MT transmission used in SC is nowhere near as good as the 6MT in GT cars.
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
Also the 7MT transmission used in SC is nowhere near as good as the 6MT in GT cars.
Agreed, but it's the only option to hold the torque from the turbo engines.

I hope they bring a 6 speed manual, but the writing is on the wall that it is not long for this world so a new development doesn't make much sense.
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
Right, and I assume the same deal here - they already made the mold and proved it could sell. The new Turbo S is going to be the big power PDK car and Turbo slots in at just above GTS power levels with a manual.

I think it would be a good strategy.
I am convinced that Porsche will make the manual transmission a specialty offering to differenciate its products from the competition and maximise the economic return in the process.

The GT3 line has already demonstrated that they can create sub-segments within the same basic drivetrain. There are customers interested in top track time and they have the RS for them, on the other hand they have the Touring.
Moreover they are targeting super wealthy customers who are getting multiple GT3s of different flavors.

To some extent they can repeat the same with the turbo drivetrain and create multiple variations.

There are customers that would like a turbo with a manual transmission and RWD just because is more special than a GTS even if only marginally faster.
On the other hand some customer may not be interested in the fastest turbo with AWD and PDK, precisely on the account of the extra performance not being usable on the road.

Commercially it makes a lot of sense because with the same basic car they can cover a very wide offering.
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
The current car is already so fast that a 20% throttle application for brief 3 seconds and you are in well excess of going to jail speeds. I just dont understand the point of this power in a TTS.
they sell other cars for people like you. And they’ll give you a significant discount!
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Old 06-07-2024, 12:38 AM
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3pedals hates the TTS.

Sells it. Orders another one, but hates it lol.

But for those brief 3 seconds or less, YOU ARE ALIVE! unless you crash, then you not alive anymore.
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Originally Posted by iso87
Doubt it's a decoy tbh. Don't think they would play such games but who knows.

Also doubt the TTS would come with touring package as they need the side vents for cooling what's likely going to be 750+ bhp car.
The Touring package does not imply removal of side vents. That’s a Turbo signature design element. Doubt they’ll remove that on a Turbo.

The Turbo has virtually no differentiation or value proposition at this point. Making it manual, RWD will add a value prop that will make this trim worth it of having it in the line up.

A manual, RWD/AWD, Turbo, Side Vents, Quad Exhaust with a Touring package? It’s the dream of the Gods. Good luck getting one!

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Old 06-07-2024, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CM991
The routing package does not imply removal of side vents. That’s a Turbo signature design element. Doubt they’ll remove that on a Turbo.
So why do you think they have covered it in the car that has been photographed in the spyshots? It has them covered. Only think I can think of is testing is the Sport Classic-ish shape would perform well enough in terms of cooling/heat exchange. IMO with less power from the ICE engine(supplemented by electric) the touring package would come without side vents but in a Turbo body, like SC.

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Originally Posted by iso87
So why do you think they have covered it in the car that has been photographed in the spyshots. It has them covered.
They use camouflage. Fairly common when testing mules.

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