According to Ryan Friedman

https://www.ryanfriedmanmotorcars.co...​​

 

Mine is a 1 of 1 2022 Touring, manual, amethyst, michelin tires, iphone doc charger, P1 design seat inserts, alcantara steering wheel in the region of Southern USA #rare

 

ok so I try to stop myself from commenting on these but LOL ...what a bunch of dealer BS. They made 912 MY'22 GT3 Touring for NA. 387 of which are PTS. Not saying that's a lot but a dealer throwing out 134 as a "estimated" number is special.

 

Always find it humorous in general when people try to make their car seems more rare. Who cares.

 

We're talking about two things, and both of us are right.

 

And here are its idiot cousins:

The whole "I knew the prices would come down to MSRP". It took you 8 years and now MSRP is 60% higher, but yes you got it for MSRP. And yes after 99 incorrect predictions, the 100th prediction is accurate.

The whole "Porsche is a for profit company, therefore they have to build as many as possible." Yes, Porsche is clueless and relies on RL for manufacturing and financial guidance. Yes, they have unlimited capacity to build cars just for you.

 

Porsche is playing the long game. They'll build as many cars as they can, within the constraint of keep long-term supply just under long-term demand.

 

They are not building to a constraint, they are building as many as they can, it's just not enough to meet demand, but that is not by design, or purposefully. They would not sacrifice additional profits for what you've described.

Purposefully building to a constraint would only be giving further profits to dealers not to PAG, why would they choose to do that?

 

I have a friend who's an insider in this industry. He tells me they play the long game because that's what leads to sustained profits. If you build too many cars now and have a resulting glut of cars in the future, less cars are built and sold at that time, and the lack of scarcity hurts the brand reputation.

 

Not that I wish it to happen but a recession will clean out the system of the price gouging that we are seeing pretty well. Covid and it's related inflation really focked up a lot of stuff and those in the lowest income brackets have been smacked the hardest.

 

Classic strategy is "demand minus one"

Nowadays demand is effectively unlimited, particularly with new/significant international markets, so that concept may now be irrelevant.

 

They are indeed getting to the point of ridiculousness. The inflated costs in such a short period simply is becoming too hard to swallow for alot of 911 GT buyers, including myself. I already have all the GT cars I really want (with the exception of a 992 RS). Once I found out I wasn't getting a 3RS allocation, I started getting serious about a C8 Z07. With little effort, within 3 months I obtained a build slot with a local dealer I had zero relationship with, and GM already has my order, just waiting on the official build date. I should have the car by summer. Car is maxed out with every CF option and "track" oriented option there is, including the unobtainium Z07 package for '24, and the car barely breaks $160K. 992 GT3 are $210 with just minimal options these days, much less the cost of an RS. No wonder the lists for C8 Z06/07's are a mile long these days. Chevy knows it, which is why they will build these cars for 5-6 years straight, and everybody who really wants one, can get one with a little effort.

The other elephant in the room is Porsche's plans to kill off the Cayman platform with full EV. That car was the "entry" to Porsche GT cars, that was more palatable, but now it seems the only pathway in will be the 911. There are literally droves of people switching to C8 Z51 cars for $75K. A few mods and they keep up with GT4's with no problem. GM is hitting that sub 100K price point that was a massive success when the first GT4 came out.

GT4RS might be the only other car I have interest in these days, but it overlaps with my '16 GT4 too much, hence why I chose to go with the vette, and honestly, that motor. It's a masterpiece.

If I could get a 3RS, I'd still buy one, but it would be my last new GT car purchase. I think Porsche is just milking the "ICE extinction" for every penny they can, nothing more.

 

I was offered one today. Dealer received 1 random GT3 wing allocation. Waiting to hear trade in number and ADM amount.

 

Some dealers are getting "bonus" allocations because they are investing to be Manthey parts dealers/installers. My local dealer is now one, and offered me a 4RS, but it required me to accept a full Manthey package upon delivery, adding $70K+ to the MSRP. I politely declined. My buddy also just got a 2025 3RS allocation at the same dealer, but no Manthey requirement.

There are definitely trickling out here and there.

 

Porsches were a value proposition for many years - performance close to exotics, better reliability than exotics, pricing between BMW/Merc/Audi and exotics. I don't think Porsches are 'special' enough to compete with exotics, but Porsche seems to be working towards pricing their cars closer to exotics. Time will tell whether the market will accept that. I generally track my Porsche sports cars and drive them hard on the road, and current MSRP prices are near the limit of what I'm willing to pay, and that's in part because they tend to not depreciate as much as other cars.