[Collecting Cars] 750S v GT3RS
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LOL if one buys the 992 RS for street driving, they are just looking for the Lamborghini type attention but they aren't willing to stomach the Lambo depreciation. there are zero reasons to use this car on the street over a GT3. and there are many reasons a GT3 makes more sense for street use.
but........
if one buys the 992 RS for track work, shouldn't they just buy a cup car? There are no reasons a RS is better on the track and to run on the track than a cup car. there are many reasons a cup car is better than an RS on track......driving home from the track isn't a reason, if you can afford either car you can afford a trailer. also, if youre driving home in the RS so you can use it around town, then see point 1.
992 RS best talents are making the owner feel special, and retaining value (as long as you got it at sticker).
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if one buys the 992 RS for track work, shouldn't they just buy a cup car? There are no reasons a RS is better on the track and to run on the track than a cup car. there are many reasons a cup car is better than an RS on track......driving home from the track isn't a reason, if you can afford either car you can afford a trailer. also, if youre driving home in the RS so you can use it around town, then see point 1.
992 RS best talents are making the owner feel special, and retaining value (as long as you got it at sticker).
As for cup car being better for track - in many ways it is. But it's much less accessible - no abs or stability control, slicks, unboosted brakes etc. It's all manageable but requires solid experience not to screw up. It also has no warranty and much higher maintenance cost, but that's nothing compared to trailering. Extra time loading and unloading, prepping etc would be the most expensive part of a track day for me. I have a crew doing it for me, even though I'm handy, and with GT3/RS I did everything myself, including changing brake pads and tires, and even exhaust, track-side between sessions. Trailer logistics just wastes a lot of time when doing it alone. Storing extra tow vehicle and trailer is also not for everyone. When I lived in big cities, the space for a truck and trailer near home would cost 5x the cost of an RS, at least. Storing it elsewhere means even more time spent, unless you have a crew doing all the logistics for you. So using a cup car with convenience comparable to RS is way more expensive and can be impossible if you don't have a team you can trust nearby.
As for RS making owners feel special - heck yeah, it does a good job there! Even after playing with real race cars (I'm in my 4th season of competitive racing with 12-15 races per year), driving it feels special, and is entertaining, exploring all the settings and so on. McLaren does it very well too, maybe even better. And it's a good thing. Why would one buy such a car to feel the same as driving a Corolla?
RS is also an odd-ball - it's a hot-rodded 911 rather than a supercar, while 750 is a real supercar. But in many ways, RS is more extreme in its engineering than many supercars, so feels more special to those who are after pushing things to the limit and geeking out.
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Good video! It would have been fun to see the duel on a real track in the dry. The RS fast in corners and the mclaren blistering on the straights. This really deserves an ICONS episodes by Jason Camisa.
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The McLaren haters are really quiet. Not surprised.
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3RS is way too compromised as a street car. Not even a question. The 720 is a better dual use car. The 765 is a better track car, at least for the tracks out this way.
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Yes. It’s 30kg lighter than the 720. Plenty of people have weighed those. The 992 3rs put on some 15kg for all that (very cool) aero. The 750 is a refinement of the 720 bringing components down from the 765 (plenty of people have weighed those too). It’s much more iterative. The 992 3rs doesn’t drive anything like the 991 3rs (imo).
and the CF monocoque is a huge advantage. Plus no need to fit on the 992 Carrera chassis and factory line.
and the CF monocoque is a huge advantage. Plus no need to fit on the 992 Carrera chassis and factory line.
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They show manufacturer-quoted weights rather than real weights, but it should be close. Real-life 720s weighed in at 1445-1470kg (3180lbs - 3240lbs) with full tank and no driver, and 750s is supposed to be 66lbs or 30kg lighter.
The RS weight they show (1450) is spec weight for non-Weissach. Caranddriver weighed Weissach RS with a full tank at 3214lbs (unclear whether it was regular or extended tank, though). So 750s should be lighter, but the gap may be smaller than the spec weights suggest.
The RS weight they show (1450) is spec weight for non-Weissach. Caranddriver weighed Weissach RS with a full tank at 3214lbs (unclear whether it was regular or extended tank, though). So 750s should be lighter, but the gap may be smaller than the spec weights suggest.
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This is probably some sort of weird placebo affect, but if you just feel the Mclaren (in my case a 765LT) and open and move the door and the seats around, it just feels lighter than a Porsche GT car (in my case a 992 GT3 and a 991.2 GT3 RS).
No doubt just imagining things ...
No doubt just imagining things ...
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This is probably some sort of weird placebo affect, but if you just feel the Mclaren (in my case a 765LT) and open and move the door and the seats around, it just feels lighter than a Porsche GT car (in my case a 992 GT3 and a 991.2 GT3 RS).
No doubt just imagining things ...
No doubt just imagining things ...
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That track is so "bad" for the RS that would be the same if they have done a drag strip test!
But again...we are comparing cars that have a difference of 200 horsepower or more. Is pointless!
The only cars that i would compare to the 3RS are the 600LT or the 620R.
All the others are 2RS league cars!
But again...we are comparing cars that have a difference of 200 horsepower or more. Is pointless!
The only cars that i would compare to the 3RS are the 600LT or the 620R.
All the others are 2RS league cars!