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Old 05-01-2024, 06:06 PM
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Looks like the Neodyme version is:

https://www.eurospares.com/Parts/992044685A/Porsche
Old 05-01-2024, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Yes, but changing an R&P does require someone to do a careful job (setting preload, etc. does require some expertise and experience with this). Generally want to use a gearbox shop, rather than an average independent service place.

I have the shop Dirk at Mantis Autosport in Oakville, outside Toronto here Canada … he just did my 997.1 RS to 3.89 R&P and taller 6th gear from .2

here is the money question :.. would this S/T clutch and flywheel kit mate to my 991.2 Touring ?

as I know it is not an option to add the 911R kits apparently crankshaft and main bearing problem will follow
Old 05-01-2024, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Himmelman
here is the money question :.. would this S/T clutch and flywheel kit mate to my 991.2 Touring ?
It’s already been done with 992.1 and I believe the parts are same for 991.2 (but can’t offer any guarantee).
Old 05-01-2024, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
It’s already been done with 992.1 and I believe the parts are same for 991.2 (but can’t offer any guarantee).
I guess only Porsche engineers or factory would know for certain before purchasing the kit and installing as would be expensive if wrong

Wonder if it is the identical gearbox between generations and if same problems why AP said do not do it with the 911R to 991.2 GT3 apply to the S/T kit … harmonic and vibrations hurting the crankshaft and main bearings

Old 05-01-2024, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Himmelman
I guess only Porsche engineers or factory would know for certain before purchasing the kit and installing as would be expensive if wrong

Wonder if it is the identical gearbox between generations and if same problems why AP said do not do it with the 911R to 991.2 GT3 apply to the S/T kit … harmonic and vibrations hurting the crankshaft and main bearings
I think because the crankshaft is physically different between the 911R and 991.2 , the LWFW from the 911R won't mate.

Issues of harmonics/vibrations impacting the drivetrain is a universal theoretical issue with LWFW, so I doubt there is anything specific to the 991.2 that makes it any more prone to this than a 992.1. But of course, no one really knows.

I think a LWFW would be very cool in a 991.2 and would play into that car's rawness. I love it in my 993, but (no offense) I wouldn't want to pay $20k+ to do it in a 991.2. The 993 uses off the shelf parts which are much cheaper (though the engine out labor costs to install it were astronomical). I'd like to think maybe someday, someone will figure out an off the shelf part for the 991.2 that does the job.
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Old 05-01-2024, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
I think because the crankshaft is physically different between the 911R and 991.2 , the LWFW from the 911R won't mate.

Issues of harmonics/vibrations impacting the drivetrain is a universal theoretical issue with LWFW, so I doubt there is anything specific to the 991.2 that makes it any more prone to this than a 992.1. But of course, no one really knows.

I think a LWFW would be very cool in a 991.2 and would play into that car's rawness. I love it in my 993, but (no offense) I wouldn't want to pay $20k+ to do it in a 991.2. The 993 uses off the shelf parts which are much cheaper (though the engine out labor costs to install it were astronomical). I'd like to think maybe someday, someone will figure out an off the shelf part for the 991.2 that does the job.
This, too, is what I'm hoping "someone" will figure out. And by "off the shelf", I'm hoping for Sachs/Aasco, like what many people (including myself) did on the 981 GT4s.
Old 05-01-2024, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
I think because the crankshaft is physically different between the 911R and 991.2 , the LWFW from the 911R won't mate.

Issues of harmonics/vibrations impacting the drivetrain is a universal theoretical issue with LWFW, so I doubt there is anything specific to the 991.2 that makes it any more prone to this than a 992.1. But of course, no one really knows.

I think a LWFW would be very cool in a 991.2 and would play into that car's rawness. I love it in my 993, but (no offense) I wouldn't want to pay $20k+ to do it in a 991.2. The 993 uses off the shelf parts which are much cheaper (though the engine out labor costs to install it were astronomical). I'd like to think maybe someday, someone will figure out an off the shelf part for the 991.2 that does the job.

Perhaps you can reach out to Andreas Preuninger and ask him point blank why he specifically stated that a SMLWFW was a non-workable solution for the 991.2 specifically, a statement he made unequivocally
Old 05-01-2024, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by catdog2
Perhaps you can reach out to Andreas Preuninger and ask him point blank why he specifically stated that a SMLWFW was a non-workable solution for the 991.2 specifically, a statement he made unequivocally
AP is in the business of selling new cars…not helping make old cars cooler or equal to the new ones.
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Old 05-01-2024, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by catdog2
Perhaps you can reach out to Andreas Preuninger and ask him point blank why he specifically stated that a SMLWFW was a non-workable solution for the 991.2 specifically, a statement he made unequivocally
He also said the 991.2 engine was so good it doesn't need a LWFW.

"..nobody will miss [the LWFW] because the engine is so explosive, even with the dual-mass. It is absolutely a dream, it goes it's so responsive, especially with the manual." By that logic, I guess the 992.1 engine is missing the LWFW that the 991.2 doesn't need. (obviously j/k)

I like AP, but he says a lot of things, so I usually take it with a grain of salt.

I would be interested to hear someone with an intimate knowledge of these engines to explain why a 991.2 would be particularly prone to drivetrain damage from a LWFW that the 992.1 is immune from. In the end, I'm confident *someone* will end up trying it out.


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Old 05-23-2024, 12:26 AM
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911 ST clutch and flywheel just installed on my 992 touring

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Old 05-23-2024, 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GOT_GT3
911 ST clutch and flywheel just installed on my 992 touring

That's a lot of weight savings.
Old 05-23-2024, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by GOT_GT3
911 ST clutch and flywheel just installed on my 992 touring
Atta boy!

It’s single handedly the most transformative piece of the s/t puzzle. Same with the R. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.

I can’t get enough of my car. Enjoy in good health!


So much sadness for S/T adm buyers. They won’t be putting miles on the car like we will : )

Heres to many miles !





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Old 05-23-2024, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jbravo23
Atta boy!

It’s single handedly the most transformative piece of the s/t puzzle. Same with the R. Don’t let anyone tell you differently.

I can’t get enough of my car. Enjoy in good health!


So much sadness for S/T adm buyers. They won’t be putting miles on the car like we will : )

Heres to many miles !

Cheers to that! I wish I could perform the same mod. Color me jelly bro!
Old 05-23-2024, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by M3Inline6
Cheers to that! I wish I could perform the same mod. Color me jelly bro!
Don’t be. Your car is 11/10. Perfecto! IMO

Love the addition of buckets. Wheels and buckets would be the last two mods I do, but I’m so happy with the car presently I feel like I’m finished.

Plus I got my little guy his own car. That’s been taking up my time of late. Magnesium wheels, hubs and of course upgraded his clutch. Toy hauler coming soon.

Wish I was 8 again. Haha





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Old 05-23-2024, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dixonk;[url=tel:19174295
19174295[/url]]If only we could get a DSC controller for the 992 platform…been waiting forever for them to release it.

Mike at dsc sport told me it will come out this summer. The dsc controller transformed my 991.2 tts and he said the 992 controller will do the same for 992.

can’t wait!!!
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