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Old 06-17-2022, 01:39 AM
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Maybe they’ll tweek with a a software version update…
Old 06-17-2022, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rosenbergendo
Actually just learned this exact same protocol from a master engine builder of flat 6's who is very well known. Basically dont let car warm at idle sitting.
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to OP. I know EXACTLY what u describe.
it's not related to RPM
got hard
see red light.
slow donw, (this has nothign to do with blipping, clip and rev matching on the donw shift is not the issue)
red light turns green
hard on throttle , car wont responded.
if anyone drove carburetor cars. it does the same...
this happens on my 992gt3 very often. but I do use throttle like on off switch.
if I applied throttle slower, then no issue.

OH, regardless of how fast or abrupt yo apply throttle, after you slow down. subject issue doest happen all the time. maybe 10% time
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Old 06-17-2022, 11:17 AM
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Well, I guess I’m glad I’m. It the only one, I’ll have them reflash the ecu when my run in is complete to see if it makes a difference, it must be a software issue.
Old 06-17-2022, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
yes


to OP. I know EXACTLY what u describe.
it's not related to RPM
got hard
see red light.
slow donw, (this has nothign to do with blipping, clip and rev matching on the donw shift is not the issue)
red light turns green
hard on throttle , car wont responded.
if anyone drove carburetor cars. it does the same...
this happens on my 992gt3 very often. but I do use throttle like on off switch.
if I applied throttle slower, then no issue.

OH, regardless of how fast or abrupt yo apply throttle, after you slow down. subject issue doest happen all the time. maybe 10% time
Same thing happens to me when I drive mine. I just deal with it because I'm lazy.
Old 06-17-2022, 02:45 PM
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So this is an issue on every 6 speed and just being brought up now? hmm??
Old 06-17-2022, 02:54 PM
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I think the same thing can happen on a PDK-S.

If I am understanding OP correctly, it's almost like the transmission is stuck between gears (either from the PDK-S programming or the MT) for a split second, and when you hit the throttle there's nothing for the engine to "catch" on to.
Old 06-17-2022, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think the same thing can happen on a PDK-S.

If I am understanding OP correctly, it's almost like the transmission is stuck between gears (either from the PDK-S programming or the MT) for a split second, and when you hit the throttle there's nothing for the engine to "catch" on to.
Not sure about PDK, but it doesn't happen on the Manual when using Auto-Blip...
Old 06-17-2022, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I think the same thing can happen on a PDK-S.

If I am understanding OP correctly, it's almost like the transmission is stuck between gears (either from the PDK-S programming or the MT) for a split second, and when you hit the throttle there's nothing for the engine to "catch" on to.
No, I think you are misunderstanding whats happening. When driving manual, if you need to drop into a lower gear, you have to rev match the motor speed to wheel speed, otherwise it will be a very hard down shift and over time will wear the car must faster. Say I am in third and cruising and I want to drop down to 2nd, I clutch in, shift down to 2nd and blip the throttle pedal to get the engine speed up to be in the correct rev speed and the engine does not respond to my input. I have three cars I regularly drive, all are manual, my other cars do not do this. I have owned mulitple porsches in the past, 997.2 4S, 991.1 4S, 981 GT4, 997.2 GT3, all of which were also manual. None of my other cars have done this and so I know its not user error.
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Old 06-17-2022, 03:36 PM
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mine also does it . maybe something to do with a glitch in the no lift shift programing? carl
Old 06-17-2022, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tareemaa
No, I think you are misunderstanding whats happening. When driving manual, if you need to drop into a lower gear, you have to rev match the motor speed to wheel speed, otherwise it will be a very hard down shift and over time will wear the car must faster. Say I am in third and cruising and I want to drop down to 2nd, I clutch in, shift down to 2nd and blip the throttle pedal to get the engine speed up to be in the correct rev speed and the engine does not respond to my input. I have three cars I regularly drive, all are manual, my other cars do not do this. I have owned mulitple porsches in the past, 997.2 4S, 991.1 4S, 981 GT4, 997.2 GT3, all of which were also manual. None of my other cars have done this and so I know its not user error.
I had a 991.2 GT3; the same happens if you do not use auto-blip. Waiting for my 992 this week, but It will be the same.
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Old 06-17-2022, 05:11 PM
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I never plan to use auto blip, so this is pretty devastating to hear this is normal..
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Old 06-17-2022, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill_76
I had a 991.2 GT3; the same happens if you do not use auto-blip. Waiting for my 992 this week, but It will be the same.
damn. I paid a visit to my dealership early on thinking it was something that would be fixed with the run in service but maybe not. The tech told me that Porsche does not want us to turn off auto blip, I would assume this could be true to help preserve the motor and transmission. The flywheel is crazy light, the tach needle drops very quickly in between shifts and if you are not shifting rather quick the auto rev match also blips up the throttle on up shifts. I have noticed that if I turn auto blip off, I find myself racing against the motor to shift and clutch out before revs fall below where they need to be.

Its a shame, Metzger motors were great to heel toe and rev-matching was telepathic.
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Old 06-17-2022, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tareemaa
The tech told me that Porsche does not want us to turn off auto blip, I would assume this could be true to help preserve the motor and transmission.
I think this is BS. The Auto-Blip reverts to "Off" every time you start the car...
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Old 06-17-2022, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by tareemaa
damn. I paid a visit to my dealership early on thinking it was something that would be fixed with the run in service but maybe not. The tech told me that Porsche does not want us to turn off auto blip, I would assume this could be true to help preserve the motor and transmission. The flywheel is crazy light, the tach needle drops very quickly in between shifts and if you are not shifting rather quick the auto rev match also blips up the throttle on up shifts. I have noticed that if I turn auto blip off, I find myself racing against the motor to shift and clutch out before revs fall below where they need to be.

Its a shame, Metzger motors were great to heel toe and rev-matching was telepathic.
Thats really cool that auto blip works on upshifts. I have a gated f430, it also has a crazy light flywheel, and I have to either upshift really fast or give some extra throttle to keep revs up before I come off the clutch. It’s the only car I have driven that I have to change my driving style so much for. Good to know 993 gt3 allows u to have driving style options.
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Old 06-17-2022, 06:27 PM
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I'm praying most of you are overreacting? I have not seen a review complain or discuss this. As someone who truly enjoys rev-matching on my own, this is discouraging..
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