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08-24-2024 | 10:57 PM
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08-25-2024 | 02:07 PM
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Only 352 miles thus far but agree clutch is great. Not a pro either by any means but have driven many manuals over many years. I really like that at clutch engagement in 1st on standstill there is no auto/computer assist which I'm assuming in other models designed to make it easier to engage & less likely to stall but actually mad it more difficult (at least for me) to always be smooth in my 718 MT Spyder.
The owners manual didn't have much but these are the 2 paragraphs specifically referring to the "lightweight" clutch.
"The vehicle is equipped with a special lightweight clutch that is designed for spontaneous response . Due to its physical properties it can absorb less heat than conventional clutches. Coupling smell. is normal and does not indicate a defect."
After a few brief words about making sure the clutch pedal is not obstructed by floor mat, showing a diagram of the shift pattern and reminding you to fully depress the clutch etc There is a NOTE highlighted.
Risk of damage to the lightweight coupling due to overheating.
Heat is generated during coupling process.
Close the clutch quickly when starting up.
Can't imagine drivetrain was designed not to used as a road car. Absolutely need to apply throttle in real world conditions.
Does the statement "close the clutch quickly on start up" mean not to keep the clutch engaged in neutral after starting the car or try to get in gear quickly without riding/slipping the clutch. Of note when the clutch is depressed while in neutral there is much less noise and chatter.
Was there a certain procedure recommended for 911R or previous 911s with single mass flywheel?
I will only be engaging clutch in first when I'm ready to start moving. Have not smelled or seen any smoke as of yet guess that's a good sign. Hope I'm not starting a thread for a single mass lightweight clutch group buy in the near future.
The owners manual didn't have much but these are the 2 paragraphs specifically referring to the "lightweight" clutch.
"The vehicle is equipped with a special lightweight clutch that is designed for spontaneous response . Due to its physical properties it can absorb less heat than conventional clutches. Coupling smell. is normal and does not indicate a defect."
After a few brief words about making sure the clutch pedal is not obstructed by floor mat, showing a diagram of the shift pattern and reminding you to fully depress the clutch etc There is a NOTE highlighted.
Risk of damage to the lightweight coupling due to overheating.
Heat is generated during coupling process.
Close the clutch quickly when starting up.
Can't imagine drivetrain was designed not to used as a road car. Absolutely need to apply throttle in real world conditions.
Does the statement "close the clutch quickly on start up" mean not to keep the clutch engaged in neutral after starting the car or try to get in gear quickly without riding/slipping the clutch. Of note when the clutch is depressed while in neutral there is much less noise and chatter.
Was there a certain procedure recommended for 911R or previous 911s with single mass flywheel?
I will only be engaging clutch in first when I'm ready to start moving. Have not smelled or seen any smoke as of yet guess that's a good sign. Hope I'm not starting a thread for a single mass lightweight clutch group buy in the near future.
08-25-2024 | 02:41 PM
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Another observation 1st to 2nd does not like to be shifted at lower RPMs to achieve smooth transition otherwise incredibly smooth and easy to drive. Need more time and miles though just like any new car.
08-25-2024 | 03:50 PM
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But…..you CAN still do launch control…BUT I know of a few journalists in North America who absolutely fried the clutch and a few STs needed clutch replacement, not cheap in this car, not cheap in any car, but it’s pricey part in the ST.
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08-25-2024 | 05:15 PM
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TY That's been working. The gassing part in particular has been very satisfying within the parameters of break in procedure.
Another observation 1st to 2nd does not like to be shifted at lower RPMs to achieve smooth transition otherwise incredibly smooth and easy to drive. Need more time and miles though just like any new car.
Another observation 1st to 2nd does not like to be shifted at lower RPMs to achieve smooth transition otherwise incredibly smooth and easy to drive. Need more time and miles though just like any new car.
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08-25-2024 | 05:40 PM
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Totally agree with this. It’s smooth as silk. First to second the trickiest and it’s not that tricky.. Use constant throttle if you remember and it smooths it out nicely. Flat shift worked great on track last week too. Quick enough to get used. Didn’t try it on 1 - 2 change though.
08-25-2024 | 06:02 PM
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08-26-2024 | 03:58 PM
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08-27-2024 | 12:35 AM
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08-27-2024 | 09:01 AM
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From a stand still when engaging 1st the S/T doesn’t like revs, prefers to let out then add power. A lot of my friends who have driven mine struggled at first to simply get the car moving as a result. It’s a wonderful set up, absolutely loving it
08-27-2024 | 09:05 AM
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I'm not sure concerned would be the right word but I wouldn't be too optimistic. Mine was supposed to start last Monday (08/19), and still hasn't. I recall someone else in here had theirs start last week a few days early per their TYD. It's a sh*tshow so who knows. Keep us posted
08-27-2024 | 09:35 AM
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Riding the clutch, slippage and especially so at high revs (for example trying to create 11s, or showing off) heats the small clutch and can easily cause long term damage. The clutch can take fast gear changes under full power and also clutch kickstart (letting go the pedal at 5500rpm) for maximum acceleration is not problem because the clutch is released instantly and without riding the clutch - riding any clutch for long is not recommended, especially important for a lightweight clutch.
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