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Old 07-01-2024, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
S/T = $300-400k car
Singer = $2-3.5 million car
I feel like Singers are the most overpriced self-indulgent toys ever.

They look great, probably even drive better, but after dropping something like 1.5M (min), no one really drives them.
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Old 07-01-2024, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I feel like Singers are the most overpriced self-indulgent toys ever.

They look great, probably even drive better, but after dropping something like 1.5M (min), no one really drives them.
I agree. Incredibly overpriced
Old 07-01-2024, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I feel like Singers are the most overpriced self-indulgent toys ever.

They look great, probably even drive better, but after dropping something like 1.5M (min), no one really drives them.
There are a handful who drive them pretty regularly and do seem to love them. For the most part though, they are just assets that get traded between ultra-rich people and get trailered to Pebble for car week to be driven around for 100 or so miles a year.

Based upon friends (or friends of friends) who have bought or test driven them, the early ones actually don't drive all that great as the engine seems to overwhelm the chassis/suspension pretty easily (this is obv secondhand info), but the newer ones drive really nicely. But not $2M nice. You can buy a whole lot of great cars for that money which are actually rarer since they've built so many Singers now. Like a CGT, F40, etc, etc, etc.
Old 07-01-2024, 01:20 PM
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What Singers are we talking about here? BAT has Singers selling for $700k to $1.2M. Even for that, it's a hard pass for me (probably purchased by the same people who drop $300k for a Richard Mille watch).
Old 07-01-2024, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I feel like Singers are the most overpriced self-indulgent toys ever.

They look great, probably even drive better, but after dropping something like 1.5M (min), no one really drives them.
They look great. Amazing even. I was going to order one and had paperwork ready to sign in 2019. Test drove one and to me felt like a tractor. So didn’t order it. 😅
Old 07-01-2024, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by WernerE
What Singers are we talking about here? BAT has Singers selling for $700k to $1.2M. Even for that, it's a hard pass for me (probably purchased by the same people who drop $300k for a Richard Mille watch).
I don't really understand the resale market for Singers.

Part of the appeal, maybe the main appeal, of a Singer is the ability to customize it exactly to your wishes.

Buying someone else's Singer is sort of like living someone else's dream.

It may be a terrific dream, but it is still someone else's dream.
Old 07-02-2024, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I feel like Singers are the most overpriced self-indulgent toys ever.

They look great, probably even drive better, but after dropping something like 1.5M (min), no one really drives them.
If I'm spending $1.5m, I'm buying a CGT not a Singer.
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Old 07-02-2024, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PTS
Seriously? LOL Leaving the window sticker / pricing of the car out on the seat for people to see...a true cars and coffee guy
‘don’t really fancy c&c for the same reason. Bunch of people with their trophy cars trying to show off the pedestals. I believe in driving and driving hard. And take care of it personally.
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Old 07-02-2024, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GT3
They look great. Amazing even. I was going to order one and had paperwork ready to sign in 2019. Test drove one and to me felt like a tractor. So didn’t order it. 😅
Playing devils advocate, the later build Singer Classics are very different cars to the early ones and drive a lot better with lots of refinements.
They also weren't $1.5m cars to the original owners, less than half that in many cases, at which point the 'value for money' makes much more sense.
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Old 07-02-2024, 09:27 AM
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‘don’t really fancy c&c for the same reason. Bunch of people with their trophy cars trying to show off the pedestals. I believe in driving and driving hard. And take care of it personally.
Sounds like Rennlist at times
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Originally Posted by fester
‘don’t really fancy c&c for the same reason. Bunch of people with their trophy cars trying to show off the pedestals. I believe in driving and driving hard. And take care of it personally.
Only been to 2 shows in my life ever, and one of them was for my buddy's 1000hp 871/562 blown golf cart. The other was to.shoot the **** with the cops running the show since I knew them well.

Odd groups of people for sure.
Old 07-02-2024, 10:48 AM
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This is a ST thread.
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Old 07-02-2024, 01:06 PM
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Have a Cali store with an ST available, asking 250k over MSRP. I think they'd work with me on price a bit if I found a local client.
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Old 07-02-2024, 02:16 PM
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Anyone see this yet??? I have not contacted them yet, but I have a hard time believing that this is for sale... and not already assigned to a 918VIP possibly

https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...&order=closest
Old 07-02-2024, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by zanary
Anyone see this yet??? I have not contacted them yet, but I have a hard time believing that this is for sale... and not already assigned to a 918VIP possibly

https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...&order=closest
It's in the showroom and they want 300k over.
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