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Old 09-10-2023 | 12:44 PM
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Old 09-10-2023 | 01:22 PM
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No, absolutely not. The Dakar was pulled and hand painted for certain colour schemes.

And further more if you CXX exterior parts, those are parts are painted somewhere else.
Duh! Parts, not cars, parts. And those CXX parts aren't installed on the line either.

And yes of course, the Roughroad scheme can't be robot painted as it need hand taping for all the different colours.
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Old 09-10-2023 | 01:48 PM
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Old 09-11-2023 | 01:56 AM
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when it takes this much analysis and discussion to buy a car or a toy, I quit
it's just a car not that interesting...
most on bike now.
whoppsy, you in my hood and I am at YVR now hahah
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Old 09-13-2023 | 11:10 AM
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Anyone confirmed the ST will make it's NA debut at Rennsport in a few weeks?
Old 09-13-2023 | 02:47 PM
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There are 700 less SC than the S/T. Porsche isn't gonna dump those extra 700 cars to Europe and RoW. The S/T is and always will be an America focused car. European buyers of the GT3 won't magically have an extra 150k euros to buy an S/T you know.

Between Canada and USA, there should be roughly 900 allocations, ~60-80 to Canada and the rest are for USA. In the grand scheme of things on Porsche's numbered cars, the S/T isn't 'that' hard to get, just slightly harder than getting a Dakar.
US is NOT getting 800+ S/T's...not even close. 500-600 max, and I'll bet it's closer to 500.

Not hard to get LOL when only ~2 customers at large Porsche stores can get a car, and only ~1 customer at smaller-medium stores...that's hard to get.

There are over 30 people at PNH alone trying to get an S/T, and they'll get 2 cars

I have friends trying to get an MSRP GT3 allocation for 24 months and they can't get one

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Old 09-13-2023 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MattDFW
Anyone confirmed the ST will make it's NA debut at Rennsport in a few weeks?
That's confirmed.
Old 09-13-2023 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
US is NOT getting 800+ S/T's...not even close. 500-600 max, and I'll bet it's closer to 500.

Not hard to get LOL when only ~2 customers at large Porsche stores can get a car, and only ~1 customer at smaller-medium stores...that's hard to get.

There are over 30 people at PNH alone trying to get an S/T, and they'll get 2 cars

I have friends trying to get an MSRP GT3 allocation for 24 months and they can't get one
PNH will most likely get more than 2 cars. My (relatively small dealer) got 2 SCs and they believe they will get at least 2 STs... PNH is much bigger.
Old 09-13-2023 | 03:49 PM
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If you double the number of 911R's that came in you would be looking at under 400 cars for the US and around 50 for Canada.
Old 09-13-2023 | 04:16 PM
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296 911r's were delivered to the United states and they made 991. 588 speedsters were delivered to the u.s. (130 were delivered to CA)

911r logic: (1963/991)*296= 586 will be delivered to the United States.
2019 speedster logic: (1963/1948)*588 = 592 will be delivered to the United States. (another est. 131 to Canada)

Safe to say around 585-595
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WenigerAberBeser
PNH will most likely get more than 2 cars. My (relatively small dealer) got 2 SCs and they believe they will get at least 2 STs... PNH is much bigger.
PNH only got 1 non VIP SC. They expect 2 S/Ts
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Originally Posted by welikethetrack
296 911r's were delivered to the United states and they made 991. 588 speedsters were delivered to the u.s. (130 were delivered to CA)

911r logic: (1963/991)*296= 586 will be delivered to the United States.
2019 speedster logic: (1963/1948)*588 = 592 will be delivered to the United States. (another est. 131 to Canada)

Safe to say around 585-595
That seems accurate to me.

There are 200 Porsche stores in the US. All stores will get at least 1 car, medium/large stores will get ~2, and maybe largest 20-50 stores would get ~3.
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Does anyone know when to expect road reviews?

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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
US is NOT getting 800+ S/T's...not even close. 500-600 max, and I'll bet it's closer to 500.

Not hard to get LOL when only ~2 customers at large Porsche stores can get a car, and only ~1 customer at smaller-medium stores...that's hard to get.

There are over 30 people at PNH alone trying to get an S/T, and they'll get 2 cars

I have friends trying to get an MSRP GT3 allocation for 24 months and they can't get one
There will be just about 2000 S/Ts getting produced, USA aren't only getting 25% of that. It will be at least 30% if not more. The Russian market is gone, the Chinese market aren't too hot on the S/T, where would the extra cars goes? Naturally the USA again. Who has a bottomless appetite for manual cars.

If a dealership tells you they are 'only' getting 2, that's just their initial allocations. Another way for them to keep the ADM high. More will follow after once the production slots are made ready to be consumed. The slots comes in batches, Porsche don't release all of them at once.

Just wait and see.
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Old 09-13-2023 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
Does anyone know when to expect road reviews?
I believe the embargo is lifted sometime in October


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