Some musings on Manthey and the 992.1 GT3 RS now that we know most of the specifics.

- roughly half of Manthey's value add in their RS offerings is related to aero enhancements. The other being mostly suspension related. Where does that leave room for Manthey to make significant improvements with Porsche having swung for the fences on aero with this new car? One obvious area is power but Manthey's never gone that route in the past. That said, it would be sweet to see them offer a 4.2 upgrade. Beyond that I don't see them being able to command $75k-$90k for their MR packages.

- those of you well connected will know that Manthey's primary reason for not selling product in the U.S. is Porsche's fear of getting sued. Specifically, that a U.S. customer could install the kit, crash the car and then claim it was Manthey's/Porsche's fault because of adjustable shocks/aftermarket modifications. This argument is completely illogical given the ability to adjust parameters on past GT cars but enough of my contacts have confirmed it for me to believe it, especially in light of Porsche's fear of falling afoul of the U.S. legal system. The question that comes to mind is whether that argument will still hold water given what a appears to be a significant jump in driver adjustability in the new GT3 RS?

 

As others have said, MSRP sales do happen but they're the rarity these days. Reality is it's far easier to walk into a Ferrari dealership and pay MSRP for a current model, not to mention more enjoyable. You need only write a check, get in line and wait (ask me how I know). Good luck with your search. One thing we know for certain is that they'll be plenty of flippers offering cars post-sale with delivery miles.

And yes, DRS is will be on US cars.

 

"This is incorrect. Certain dealers will sell you a 3RS at MSRP. But only if you have been a tremendous customer and bought (insert very large dollar amount here) of cars over the past 2-3 years."

There is a norm and there is exception. The "new norm" for majority of retail customers is to pay handsome amounts of ADM for any Porsche GT cars (perhaps with the exception of GT4) even if they had established good relationships with local dealers. This explains why Porsche can get away with 1% of increase in engine output marketing their new GT3RS (if confirmed on Wednesday), and this has never happened before.

 

Truly, how many on this thread would turn down an allocation if among the few to get one?

Interesting question; I have full confidence I could get one but the dealer would want me to trade my incoming manual touring or 4RS in this market… Right now I think I’ll pass on the 3RS as touring/4RS combo sounds more appealing then the two 911’s and my driving experience/limits are minor league. That being said I drive spirited roads more then tracks. Looking forwards to the reviews, but raw and experience of the drive is most important to me.

 

Me

 

You forget that there are other countries in this world other than USA, when making broad generalisations such as you have here.

ADM isn’t a thing in most countries, and in some it’s actually illegal. I actually thought for awhile that ADM stood for American Dealer Markup.

 

Me too.

And it hurts me to say that as I have an allocation for MSRP,* with the hopes of doing ED.

*Yes, in writing.

 

I did forget and was commenting on US markets only. Did not mean the US is the be all end all of world if that's your impression. That said, car prices are the lowest in north America compared to other world regions, so no complaints living in America as a car enthusiast ADM or not!

 

Any word on if there will be a Weissach Package and what it will look like?

 

It is a certainty and required to add Mag wheels.

 

And PTS

 

How long (time frame) will the manufacturing cycle last to be able to walk into a dealer, spec and order one? I realize it's when all the allocations have been used up but how long does this typically take. 8/17/2022 thru ???? I'd like to purchase a 992RS new but don't need to be first or early delivery. I'd actually rather be at the back of the herd so I can see in person how cars looked spec'd when they are delivered and pay a little less in ADM at the end of the cycle.

 

I might pass as well. Pros - the top driver's Porsche. Cons - aero is not very useful at road speeds and no other ways to differentiate it from GT3, does not look very pleasing (purposeful, but not beautiful, imo). I'll probably still get one to see what's it about and trade it for speedster or whatever special version they make for road driving. But my problem with special versions is that they are manuals (I find them to be a nuisance - yes) and priced in a way that only makes sense for collectors rather than drivers. Arrrrgh... Maybe it's time to try an F-car for a change.

 

Perfect
My chances for an allocation getting better and better, one dude at a time...

 

If you add a 150k-100k ADM, the car becomes effectively 400k-450k after options (Weissach, mag wheels, PTS, PCCB,etc). At that price there are tons of other great choices.
Frankly, I have trouble believing that the dealers will be able to charge that high of ADM for this car.